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Vid Kid wrote:

First of all .. NEVER put twx proxy in the desktop , that only leads to major problems later in debugging script problems.

I have been cleaning up troubles from a handful of players ..
seems someone is teaching how to install twx proxy
(the blind leading the blind).
To properly install software , let its installer choose the path or it must go into the Root directory structure :
C:/ directory style , not on the desktop , the desktop is for short cuts.
That leads to bigger problems.

I suggest C:/DownLoads for anything you download
and C:/UnZipped for anything you unzip.
So TWX would probably end up in C:/UnZipped/TWX_Proxy

T0yman wrote:

It's just messy with all the files. I don't think he is referring to running it from within a folder on the desktop since that will cause "NO" issues. I just prefer running everything from a certain folder "C:\TWX" "C:\SWATH\" cause it is easier to keep track of everything. You imagine all the mombot files all over your desktop.... my OCD would drive me nuts.

Of course I could be wrong on what Vid is trying to say.. :lol:

Quote:

Vid and others elude to scripting issues that could arise later but I haven't seen any during my limited scripting past. Can someone (EP maybe?) definitively produce the type of issues we could see by placing TWX on the desktop with shortcuts.

Vid Kid wrote:

From Kaus

Quote:

As you say "with shortcuts"
I have no problem with it that way because that is how the desktop was meant to be used , with shortcuts.
Not the .exe

Vid Kid wrote:

Most recently , an install of mombot to the twx on the desktop install.
This person installed to the desktop as well as 3 other locations ..
Which I did not find out till hours of debugging , and eventually I used joinme.com to get on his system to figure out the mess and correct it.

Which meant to build a directory off of the c: drive and eliminate all other twx's on his system ..and now he runs scripts and mombot without
any other problems.

So I teach others to just make a shortcut to the desktop for your scripts folder and a shortcut to launch the twx.exe

Mongoose wrote:

I always thought the issue was that script includes choke on directory names with spaces in them. Yes/no?

Author:	Kaus [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:25 am ]
Post subject:	*Resolving the TWX C: issue**
Vid Kid wrote: First of all .. NEVER put twx proxy in the desktop , that only leads to major problems later in debugging script problems. I have been cleaning up troubles from a handful of players .. seems someone is teaching how to install twx proxy (the blind leading the blind). To properly install software , let its installer choose the path or it must go into the Root directory structure : C:/ directory style , not on the desktop , the desktop is for short cuts. That leads to bigger problems. I suggest C:/DownLoads for anything you download and C:/UnZipped for anything you unzip. So TWX would probably end up in C:/UnZipped/TWX_Proxy I'd like people to expand on this, having read the source I didn't see where choosing to put your TWX Proxy in C:\Users\Kaus\Desktop\TWX vs. C:\ is of any significant issue. Vid and others elude to scripting issues that could arise later but I haven't seen any during my limited scripting past. Can someone (EP maybe?) definitively produce the type of issues we could see by placing TWX on the desktop with shortcuts. Historically I have helped people with install's and I certainly don't want to contribute towards the "Blind leading the Blind" if installing outside the C:\ is detrimental.

Author:	T0yman [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:47 am ]
Post subject:	*Re: Debunking the C: issue**
It's just messy with all the files. I don't think he is referring to running it from within a folder on the desktop since that will cause "NO" issues. I just prefer running everything from a certain folder "C:\TWX" "C:\SWATH\" cause it is easier to keep track of everything. You imagine all the mombot files all over your desktop.... my OCD would drive me nuts. Of course I could be wrong on what Vid is trying to say..

Author:	Kaus [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:58 am ]
Post subject:	*Re: Debunking the C: issue**
T0yman wrote: It's just messy with all the files. I don't think he is referring to running it from within a folder on the desktop since that will cause "NO" issues. I just prefer running everything from a certain folder "C:\TWX" "C:\SWATH\" cause it is easier to keep track of everything. You imagine all the mombot files all over your desktop.... my OCD would drive me nuts. Of course I could be wrong on what Vid is trying to say.. Well I mention it because throughout the years I'e heard it brought up over and over that there is really only one way to do a TWX install. I'm interested in getting EP's and everyone's experience to see if I'm just being dense. I cant imagine people putting MOMBOT files all over the desktop, by default mombot comes in established folders to drag and drop into the TWX directory.

Author:	Vid Kid [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:07 am ]
Post subject:	*Re: Debunking the C: issue**
From Kaus Quote: Vid and others elude to scripting issues that could arise later but I haven't seen any during my limited scripting past. Can someone (EP maybe?) definitively produce the type of issues we could see by placing TWX on the desktop with shortcuts. As you say "with shortcuts" I have no problem with it that way because that is how the desktop was meant to be used , with shortcuts. Not the .exe

Author:	Kaus [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:11 am ]
Post subject:	*Re: Debunking the C: issue**
Vid Kid wrote: From Kaus Quote: Vid and others elude to scripting issues that could arise later but I haven't seen any during my limited scripting past. Can someone (EP maybe?) definitively produce the type of issues we could see by placing TWX on the desktop with shortcuts. As you say "with shortcuts" I have no problem with it that way because that is how the desktop was meant to be used , with shortcuts. Not the .exe I was addressing your statement Vid Kid wrote: First of all .. NEVER put twx proxy in the desktop , that only leads to major problems later in debugging script problems. I have been cleaning up troubles from a handful of players .. seems someone is teaching how to install twx proxy (the blind leading the blind). To properly install software , let its installer choose the path or it must go into the Root directory structure : I've heard similar statements from other scripters. I was hoping you or the unnamed scripters could provide some concrete issues you have faced during your tenure that have been the result of a desktop install.

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Author:	Vid Kid [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:22 am ]
Post subject:	*Re: Resolving the TWX C: issue**
Most recently , an install of mombot to the twx on the desktop install. This person installed to the desktop as well as 3 other locations .. Which I did not find out till hours of debugging , and eventually I used joinme.com to get on his system to figure out the mess and correct it. Which meant to build a directory off of the c: drive and eliminate all other twx's on his system ..and now he runs scripts and mombot without any other problems. So I teach others to just make a shortcut to the desktop for your scripts folder and a shortcut to launch the twx.exe

Author:	Kaus [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:36 am ]
Post subject:	*Re: Resolving the TWX C: issue**
Vid Kid wrote: Most recently , an install of mombot to the twx on the desktop install. This person installed to the desktop as well as 3 other locations .. Which I did not find out till hours of debugging , and eventually I used joinme.com to get on his system to figure out the mess and correct it. Which meant to build a directory off of the c: drive and eliminate all other twx's on his system ..and now he runs scripts and mombot without any other problems. So I teach others to just make a shortcut to the desktop for your scripts folder and a shortcut to launch the twx.exe So in the end its more of a user issue than an actual TWX issue, which cascades in the long run in regards to the user running scripts. I can appreciate that approach and may adopt it for myself. Thank you for the insight.

Author:	Mongoose [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:36 pm ]
Post subject:	*Re: Resolving the TWX C: issue**
I always thought the issue was that script includes choke on directory names with spaces in them. Yes/no?

Author:	Helix [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:56 pm ]
Post subject:	*Re: Resolving the TWX C: issue**
Mongoose wrote: I always thought the issue was that script includes choke on directory names with spaces in them. Yes/no? No their paths are based on the current directory location. ie ./includes = scripts/includes There should be no spaces in scripts or includes

Author:	ElderProphet [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:	*Re: Resolving the TWX C: issue**
I don't believe I've ever commented one way or another. Howerver, I can tell you that the Windows Desktop is abstracted (a variable) and can be redirected, so it doesn't have a concrete location. By itself, that could cause inconsistencies, since the path to the desktop can change (common with Windows upgrades or Domains). I wouldn't expect many people to encounter that problem, but it would be simpler and more resilient to use a concrete path like "c:\twxproxy2.5\". +EP+

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