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ElderProphet
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Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 1131 Location: Augusta, GA
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EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
Happy 2018! I'm planning to release my updated Haggle script next weekend. I'd like to know what problems you've seen since the 2017v2 release from this past October.
My primary goal with the 2018 release is to address any lingering issues (so please point them out), and to greatly reduce the number of variables used. Removing some of these in-memory variables will slow it down slightly, but the optimizations I added this past October should more than offset this.
Additionally, I'm currently writing 4 Sector Parameters per product (Fuel Ore, Orgs, Equip), so up to 12 per sector. I may (lower priority) try to reduce this to a single Sector Parameter, so I need to know if anyone is relying on my current Sector Parameters in their scripts. Today, these look like the following: FUEL+ (equals Max Possible Fuel MCIC here) FUEL- (equals Minimum Possible Fuel MCIC) FUELL (equals Minimum Calculated Fuel Productivity here) FUELH (equals Max Calculated Fuel Productivity here) ORGANICS- ORGANICS+ ORGANICSL ORGANICSH EQUIPMENT- EQUIPMENT+ EQUIPMENTL EQUIPMENTH
Let me know if you are using any of these, and I'll consider that when making changes for the 2018 version.
+EP+
_________________ Claim to Fame: only guy to ever crack the TW haggle algorithm, and fig/shield/hold price formula, twice.
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:33 am |
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Shadow
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Joined: Tue Dec 17, 2002 3:00 am Posts: 516 Location: Virginia
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Re: EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
ElderProphet wrote: Happy 2018! I'm planning to release my updated Haggle script next weekend. I'd like to know what problems you've seen since the 2017v2 release from this past October.
My primary goal with the 2018 release is to address any lingering issues (so please point them out), and to greatly reduce the number of variables used. Removing some of these in-memory variables will slow it down slightly, but the optimizations I added this past October should more than offset this.
Additionally, I'm currently writing 4 Sector Parameters per product (Fuel Ore, Orgs, Equip), so up to 12 per sector. I may (lower priority) try to reduce this to a single Sector Parameter, so I need to know if anyone is relying on my current Sector Parameters in their scripts. Today, these look like the following: FUEL+ (equals Max Possible Fuel MCIC here) FUEL- (equals Minimum Possible Fuel MCIC) FUELL (equals Minimum Calculated Fuel Productivity here) FUELH (equals Max Calculated Fuel Productivity here) ORGANICS- ORGANICS+ ORGANICSL ORGANICSH EQUIPMENT- EQUIPMENT+ EQUIPMENTL EQUIPMENTH
Let me know if you are using any of these, and I'll consider that when making changes for the 2018 version.
+EP+ I've had no issues since the 2017v2 release, it seems to have fixed most of them. Thank you!
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Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:25 am |
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Spectre
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Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:11 pm Posts: 31
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Re: EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
I haven't had any issues either since 2017v2.
Thanks EP for keeping this script updated. It is my number one used script.
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Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:43 pm |
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ElderProphet
Commander
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 1131 Location: Augusta, GA
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Re: EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
How's everyone's 2018 going?
I'm considering a mid-year feature update of my Haggle. So far I'm not seeing any DERIVE FAILED errors (since 2017v2), and the array cleanup I introduced with the 2018 release is a major win behind the scenes. Is anyone seeing any issues?
+EP+
_________________ Claim to Fame: only guy to ever crack the TW haggle algorithm, and fig/shield/hold price formula, twice.
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Sun May 27, 2018 1:31 pm |
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Cruncher
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Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 4016 Location: USA
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Re: EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
No issues here. What feature are you thinking about adding?
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Mon May 28, 2018 1:11 pm |
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ElderProphet
Commander
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 1131 Location: Augusta, GA
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Re: EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
I'm considering a few things... A) Burst Haggle - sends (as a burst) max overbid and acceptable Final Offer B) Planet Trade bailout when the Final Offer comes prematurely - can be a huge number of credits. C) per item Haggle And Hold I'm also hoping to add some provision for the mythical 5 EXP haggle. This sounds sexy, but it's only possible on rare occasions, and the port has to be at 100%. And if this is toggled on, it will make a little less cash than normal too. But it will be sexy Feel free to indicate if any of these are of interest to you, +EP+
_________________ Claim to Fame: only guy to ever crack the TW haggle algorithm, and fig/shield/hold price formula, twice.
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Tue May 29, 2018 8:08 pm |
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Lionmane
Chief Warrant Officer
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 2:00 am Posts: 194 Location: USA
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Re: EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
Yay! Sexy!
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Thu May 31, 2018 9:41 pm |
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Cruncher
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Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 4016 Location: USA
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Re: EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
ElderProphet wrote: I'm considering a few things... A) Burst Haggle - sends (as a burst) max overbid and acceptable Final Offer B) Planet Trade bailout when the Final Offer comes prematurely - can be a huge number of credits. C) per item Haggle And Hold I'm also hoping to add some provision for the mythical 5 EXP haggle. This sounds sexy, but it's only possible on rare occasions, and the port has to be at 100%. And if this is toggled on, it will make a little less cash than normal too. But it will be sexy Feel free to indicate if any of these are of interest to you, +EP+ Ah.. here's a question. When planet trading, how do I use yours? I' m just so accustomed to using Mombot >neg.
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Thu May 31, 2018 9:55 pm |
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ElderProphet
Commander
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 1131 Location: Augusta, GA
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Re: EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
Mine always takes over once the port makes an offer, for both ship or planet trades. So you would initiate the trade, specify the quantity, and when the port makes an offer my haggle takes over.
_________________ Claim to Fame: only guy to ever crack the TW haggle algorithm, and fig/shield/hold price formula, twice.
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:18 pm |
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Cruncher
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Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 4016 Location: USA
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Re: EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
ElderProphet wrote: Mine always takes over once the port makes an offer, for both ship or planet trades. So you would initiate the trade, specify the quantity, and when the port makes an offer my haggle takes over. Ah.. OK. I'll ask Xanos if he's board if he can modify a planet trading script he made for me to use your haggle instead of Mombot.
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:50 am |
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Lionmane
Chief Warrant Officer
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 2:00 am Posts: 194 Location: USA
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Re: EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
Something I've observed while using this script.
I have Windows 8.1, SWATH 2.0, and TWXProxy 2.5.73.
While using the World SSM script in SWATH with EP Haggle, I notice that when I bust my max holds (displayed on the left in SWATH) changes to 250. This prevents refurbing.
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Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:51 pm |
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Micro
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Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:19 pm Posts: 2559 Location: Oklahoma City, OK 73170 US
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Re: EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
Swath doesn't always play nice with TWX Proxy
Just press / for quickinfo to update swath. you can also and a echo "/" in you script to update swath.
I would recommend running a WorldSSM script in TWXproxy instead though.
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Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:37 pm |
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Grey Gamer
Chief Warrant Officer
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:22 am Posts: 186
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Re: EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
In order to receive 5 xp you need to negotiate worse? I have a trigger in my login script to send "/" when I leave StarDock, but I haven't done that for Class 0 ports. Well, when you leave StarDock it says "You return to your ship and blast off from the StarDock," but when you blast off a Class 0 port it just says "Command [TL=" and we see that a ton in the game! I could set a trigger to wait for "Which item do you wish to buy? (A,B,C,Q,?)" and then one to wait for "Command [TL=."
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Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:03 pm |
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ElderProphet
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Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 1131 Location: Augusta, GA
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Re: EP Haggle 2018 - Call for Changes / Bug Reports
Grey Gamer wrote: In order to receive 5 xp you need to negotiate worse? Ironically, yes. Either my haggle is just that good (<- that is a TW Easter Egg that few will get) or the game mechanics rewards less for perfect trades than for perfect haggles. +EP+
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Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:58 pm |
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