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The originally posted announcement looks like it was written by someone with a less than stellar ability to read and write.

Cerne

So you reserve the right to reveal our data?
Isn't that in and of itself an invasion of privacy?
Someone really needs to revise this.

So don't break the law. lol

Cerne

LOL
The law according to whom?
That's one of the issues with the internet. Whose law will apply?

Server Side law apply on internet.

The whole EULA thing seems to be politics since you can't even see it until AFTER you have registered and activated your account.

At some point unknown to me, the site permissions were changed so that a guest cannot even read the support forums without registering an account. If you want to give it a test, just logout and then click the link to Tradewars Forums.

That is another thing that should change, allow the unregistered to read the support forums.

Cerne

From what I know that is a mistake. Jp wanted to make the smack not visible for guest and for some reason the forum is not visible to any guest, I've notified Jp a few days ago of that and this should be fixed by your admins soon.

I'm always here and I'm the most neutral of all but I don't have any power so I can only sit tell Jp and watch

Feeling a bit useless on that knowing I'm a pro webmaster.

And let's be honnest, If I step in as an admin to help you guys out, people will cry outloud Sylien has taken over... all is lost... and blablabla. So I rather watch and do my twt news once in a while as long as the forum last and that's about it.

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Cern, some of your language changes are inaccurate. For instance "about children" is not appropriate in all circumstances, from children, however fits the wording of the law.

http://www.coppa.org/coppa.htm

"(A) the release of personal information collected from a child in identifiable form by an operator for any purpose, except where such information is provided to a person other than the operator who provides support for the internal operations of the website and does not disclose or use that information for any other purpose; and

(B) making personal information collected from a child by a website or online service directed to children or with actual knowledge that such information was collected from a child, publicly available in identifiable form, by any means including by a public posting, through the Internet, or through— "

From a child... that's clearly the intent of the wording of the law.



So if I post my name, age, address, etc, in a msg then it is protected by privacy laws? Of course not. That's just silly. But at the same time I would expect this site not to distribute my email address to spammers. These details need specified further.



Not always. It also applies client-side as well. If I'm in a state that forbids certain material and you post it in your state, and if the server is in a 3rd state, all 3 jurisdictions can come into play. This is why it's a good idea to specify the jurisdiction of such matters in the EULA.

And yes it needs work, and I'm confident it will be revised many more times before it's done.

Really, ya'll should contact an attorney versed in these matters. Nothing is cut and dry here.

MooMoo why don't you go and tend to your own Darn forum.

I am going to politly ask where the * is my ELF ???? Not even a PM to tell me I NEED to take it off.

This is like a Darn correctional facility here.

That kind of situation doesn't happen on my mark... But i'm not welcome here, have a nice day MisBehavin

I didn't write the Darn thing, I just changed the wording from under 14 to 13 years old and younger.

Cerne

i saw the elf run that way   --->

Yes, I do believe it's getting out of hand.  MB, click on the link in my signature.  Our new forum has more activity anyway.

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