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Author:  Cire [ Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:55 am ]
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OK well i can play blue easy but im having a hard time robbing and what not i dont no much about it and was worndering if people could give me some tips and advise please and thank you. when robbing i get busted once in a while while using swath and have to lower the steal ratio that i times it by also i dont know ssm or world ssm or how to even begen on that? please help ty
Author:  Coke [ Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:14 am ]
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Cire,

There are two seperate formulats to know, one for stealing, and one for robbing. The first thing you should do is check the setting % for the game. Easiest way to do that is hit * at the main game prompt, the one were it says T to play, H for high scores, S for game stats...and something else (don't matter what the 4th is anyway heh) About 1/3 of the way down from the info that comes up after hitting * is Steal factor and Rob Factor. It will have a percent number that you need to know.

Now to ROB a port, you divide 3 by the rob factor and then take that number and multiply it by your Experience.
Now to STEAL a product from a port, multiple 30 by the STEAL FACTOR and then divide 30 by that number

If you are using a WSSM script, it will ask you for the steal factor. Best way is to take the steal % and multipy it by 30. So if the Steal factor was 50% it'll be .50 * 30..so the steal factor is 15.

One thing to always check is if the game is MBBS edits. If it IS MBBS, the steal percet is ALWAYS 70% or steal factor is 21.

As far as the other question about not knowing how to begin that. There is a wssm script included in TWX PROXY that you can use. There are also a few scripts at grimytrader.com, one is in SupG's Complete script pack.

Hope I didn't confuse you. If you want, you can ICQ me at 307815463, or hit me up on Yahoo/AIM at LetsDrinkCoke and I can maybe help ya step by step if you need.
Author:  Singularity [ Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:59 am ]
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IMHO, WSSMs are a bad way to learn red stuff. They do stuff so fast that you
can't follow it and often get you killed. Supg's world SSM ewarps around and
is likely to get you podded even more-so. Unless you can get a modded copy I
suggest using Xide's 2_worldSSM that comes w/ twx... altho CK's SDT and SST
always seem like a better teacher.

As for rob and steal you really need to visit Traitor's site @:
http://tw-cabal.com/formulas.html
http://tw-cabal.com/strategy/economy1.html

If you're having trouble w/ busting too frequently you can try upping your
steal factor. This is because if you steal too many holds or rob too many
credits for your exp you increase your odds of busting by a lot. If you lower
the number of holds/creds you steal by a little you decrease your odds of
busting when working with partial holds (stealing less holds than your ship
has). Yes this means you won't make as much cash or exp, but it does
sometimes help lower your bust numbers which in turn allows you to bring
your exp back up. Busting, unfortunately, is just part of life. It is not
uncommon for a solo red to bust-up twice or more just to keep experience
where it needs to be. Just do the % * 30 and use it most of the time,
on average it works the best.

Before starting a game... at this prompt...

T - Play Trade Wars 2002
I - Introduction & Help
S - View Game Settings
H - High scores
X - Exit

Enter your choice:

hit * It'll show you a huge list of items.

Example:
Trade Percent=100%
Steal Buy=True
Clear Bust Days=7 Days
Steal Factor=100%
Rob Factor=100%

Trade % is the rate you can haggle from a planet to a port. As some methods
of red cashing use planets... this is an important thing to note. Steal Buy
means you can steal from buying ports. If this is not on, move along. Atleast
for now. The bust clear time is how long it takes for your busts to clear on
their own. If you're playing solo... this is very important. If you're playing
w/ another red then they can help clear your busts. That's a bit much for now
tho. Steal factor and rob factor are the numbers that Coke was talking about.
Some MBBS games will be modded by the sysop to be 30, or whatever. You never
can tell, just look at those numbers... only way to know for sure.

All of this is tricky at first. Best way to learn is to hook up w/ someone
that's experienced. The Big Game 2006 is coming up soon... and there may be
another large game later on in the year.
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