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Author:  Lionmane [ Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:50 pm ] 
Post subject:  Why are my holds so expensive?! 
After purchasing any amount of holds from the Stardock, the price of holds increases by a seemingly consistent amount per every purchase. I don't think the number of holds purchased affects the price; I believe it's simply the purchase. So if you purchase 100 holds or 1 hold, the price increase is the same. I seemed to have noticed that the price of holds drops if I purchase a new ship. I'm not really sure what the pattern is, but I *think* the type of ship purchased affects the price differently (or not at all...?) My question would be: would it be practical to purchase a couple of Scout Marauders to decrease the price of holds "twice" and then destroy them and purchase the ship I want to buy holds for? Or do uncontrolled, artificiallyintelligent scripts make this a moot point? 
Author:  Helix [ Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:02 pm ] 
Post subject:  Re: Why are my holds so expensive?! 
The cost of holds are: Cost = (B*H)+((I*H)*(H1))/2 B is the base cost of the hold. B is a random number generated each day by TWGS. I've tracked it over 30 days, and seen it range between 151 and 249. Extern and the hour change don't seem to change this number, only the day change. It appears to be an 18 day cycle. It starts at 151, then over 9 days works up to 249, then back down to 151 over another 9 day period. H is the number of holds you want to end up with. I is the increment number, which is always 20. (Each hold costs 20 more than the last one. Example, the cost for 100 holds (from zero holds) when B is equal to 200 is: (200*100)+((20*100)*(1001))/2 or 20000 + (2000 * 99)/2 or 20000 + 99000 = 119,000 credits. To find out what B is, use the following formula: B = C((H)*I) C is the cost for the NEXT hold. (When you look at the purchase screen, it will show the cost for the next hold to be one less credit than it actually costs to install. If you try to buy just one hold, you will see the correct price.) H is the number of holds you ALREADY have. I is the increment number, which is always 20. (Each hold costs 20 more than the last one. Example, you have 50 holds, and to get to 51 holds, it costs 1164, then B = 1164(50*20) = 164. To find out how much it costs to purchase large quantities of holds, figure out how many holds you have and how many you want to end up with. For example, if you have 50 holds, and you want 250, you first figure out what it costs to get 250 holds from 0. Then you figure out what 50 holds cost and subtract that from the 250 hold figure. Using the above value for B (164), the cost for 50 holds is :32,700, and for 250 holds is: 663,500, so it's costs 620,800 credits to go from 50 to 250 holds. from TW Cabal H 
Author:  Briana [ Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:11 pm ] 
Post subject:  Re: Why are my holds so expensive?! 
Elderprophet has a nice spreadsheet that shows fighters, shields and hold prices for the next 3 months. He has a file at the bottom of this link: viewtopic.php?t=21240 Its very good. Hope it helps. 
Author:  Lionmane [ Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:13 pm ] 
Post subject:  Re: Why are my holds so expensive?! 
I understand the TW Cabal stuff, but the price of holds increases from simply buying holds. And then it decreases when I buy a new ship. This is addition to the spreadsheet stuff. Maybe I'm just not understanding why it says "x per hold" before I buy holds and then says "x times 3 per hold" when I try to buy a second time. 
Author:  Micro [ Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:26 am ] 
Post subject:  Re: Why are my holds so expensive?! 
The price gets more expensive based on the number of holds you have, so a new ship that has less holds gets a cheaper price, but only for the first hold. Each hold you buy, the next one is more expensive. The cost of filling a colt is so high, that it is actually cheaper to buy a furb ship and capture the holds. 
Author:  Lionmane [ Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:17 am ] 
Post subject:  Re: Why are my holds so expensive?! 
Wow... That's... disturbing. What kind of mind comes up with this kind of math?! 
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