here is a capture of me being killed by Heat Sink.

I did not alter it except to edit the corp channel to 0000.

I was sitting next to his planet, running a density scan photon drop. As it was running I received a message that he warped into the sector, yet I did not capture him on any density. There are no back doors to the sector in which I was in. (you'll just have to take my word for it, or go into the game yourself and look at the sector).

Anyway, he someone evaded my density, then when he attacked me he hit me three times but I got no messages as to the damage, just that he was "powering up weapons." I'm used to seeing the attack messages, my mind doesn't really react until I see them, but by then it's usually too late. I'm trying to figure out why I'm not seeing these attack messages.

This sort of thing is happening to me on a frequent basis. I get no attack messages at all, except one.

Maybe someone knows why.

Sector : 422 in uncharted space.
Ports : Digitalus Annex, Class 2 (BSB)

Sector : 18134 in uncharted space.
Ports : New Galle, Class 2 (BSB)
Planets : <<<< (H) MaTriX >>>> (Shielded)
Fighters: 1 (belong to Corp#3, Revolution, Inc.) [Defensive]

Sector : 18845 in uncharted space.
Ports : Kaph Major, Class 4 (SSB)
Fighters: 1 (belong to Corp#3, Revolution, Inc.) [Defensive]

Sector : 19236 in uncharted space.
Ports : New Keiko, Class 1 (BBS)
Warps to Sector(s) : 422 - 18134 - 18845

Command [TL=00:00:00]:[19236] (?=Help)? : C

Sub-space radio (0000): [<ENTER> for multiple lines]

'Starting Photon Watch do not enter any of my adjacent sectors

Message sent on sub-space channel 0000.

Heat Sink warps into the sector.
Heat Sink is powering up weapons systems!

Command [TL=00:00:00]:[19236] (?=Help)? : S

Long Range Scan
Select (H)olo Scan or (D)ensity Scan or (Q)uit? [D] D

Relative Density Scan
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sector 422 ==> 100 Warps : 3 NavHaz : 0% Anom : No
Sector 18134 ==> 605 Warps : 2 NavHaz : 0% Anom : No
Sector 18845 ==> 105 Warps : 5 NavHaz : 0% Anom : No

Heat Sink is powering up weapons systems!

Command [TL=00:00:00]:[19236] (?=Help)? : S

Long Range Scan
Heat Sink is powering up weapons systems!

Select (H)olo Scan or (D)ensity Scan or (Q)uit? [D] D

Relative Density Scan
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sector 422 ==> 100 Warps : 3 NavHaz : 0% Anom : No
Sector 18134 ==> 605 Warps : 2 NavHaz : 0% Anom : No
Sector 18845 ==> 105 Warps : 5 NavHaz : 0% Anom : No

Heat Sink is powering up weapons systems!

Command [TL=00:00:00]:[19236] (?=Help)? : S

Long Range Scan
Heat Sink is powering up weapons systems!

Select (H)olo Scan or (D)ensity Scan or (Q)uit? [D] D

Relative Density Scan
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sector 422 ==> 100 Warps : 3 NavHaz : 0% Anom : No
Sector 18134 ==> 605 Warps : 2 NavHaz : 0% Anom : No
Sector 18845 ==> 105 Warps : 5 NavHaz : 0% Anom : No

Heat Sink is powering up weapons systems!

Command [TL=00:00:00]:[19236] (?=Help)? : S

Long Range Scan
Heat Sink captured your Grim Reaper in combat!
For abandoning ship, you lost 3845 experience points.
You fled in your Escape Pod to sector 422

Here is another question. If I've got shielded planets with sector quasars on, and 750,000 offensive fighters and someone photons their way in there, shouldn't my quasars slow them down long enough for the offensive fighters to finish them? Ok there is a 2 second photon wave in the game I believe, but still, it seems like whenever I get his by quasars I don't make it past the sector figs, but in this game someone did.

What's the particulars on this?

question A: why didnt your dscan catch him?
answer A: because he warped into the sector as you were starting the script.
question B: why didnt you get damage reports?
answer B: could be pre-3.12 time sync bug. if it was 3.12 then...
question C: why don't the Qcannons slow down the trader long enough that the photon duration is over and he/she hits the fighters?
answer C: they are simply faster than you. IE: they are aborting displays wether they get hit by qcannon or not, they want to get into that sector!! try out the 1 second ptorp twx script available at http://www.tw-cabal.com. it works, i have modified it (angus even kicked in a little something) and i have found unless you get incredible lag, no matter what you will ALWAYS be able to get into any sector (and on a planet of your choice) (unless you get podded) within 1 second. of course things like ship delay etc.. affect this, but assuming none and no lag, its money. abort those displays!! heh.

hope that helps (for A and C atleast)

Slim

Hell, I figured he just macro'd off planet an into your sector.

since I was there, you should have asked.

1.) I pdroped in adjecent. popped off planet and saw you, so i just warped in by hand and killed ur sector fig. then imediately hit my macro button.
2.) your cannons were weak and I know how to photon. [:D]

3.) next time you see a player 1 sector over with a planet, RUN!
(i could have photoned you, warped in 1 sec. later and killed ur fig, set my own and warped back out. then brought my planet in. but i didnt want to go through that much work, so i just did ship to ship

Ya, there was no question that I didn't see him with my density because he was ON the planet, and while I was still initiating density photon he warped in on me. That wasn't one of the questions.

As for getting in the sector with quasars, ya, I did it myself in that same game, I just forgot hehe! (Where is my memory these days). Bottom line, I left a back sector weak, with no interdictors in front of it, and canons set NOT to kill. Heat Sink is just too good a player to make those sort of mistakes with! My bad.

As for the messages, honestly, as fast as heat sink is, and as accurate, I don't think seeing the full attack messages would have done me much good, I was dead the minute I didn't turn tail and get the heck out of Dodge.

Heh, guess part of this game is knowing your own limitations But I try and maybe some day I'll get good enough to wax a player like Heat Sink.

Maybe


Of course, it helps to make sure you have fighters on your ship when you warp in to kill him after photoning him

I'm getting old.

even though he was ON the planet.. shouldnt the density photon script fire anyway? When Heat Sink warped in the planet.. the density did change.. correct? So why didnt the density script fire?

SGO you said:
"I was sitting next to his planet, running a density scan photon drop. As it was running I received a message that he warped into the sector, yet I did not capture him on any density. "
so i answered why you didnt see him on density
muss, the planet was already there when he fired up the dscan photon, so it never changed.

Slim

Ya I did write that, but then when I posted that capture I could clearly see that he warped in while I was still at the script menu firing up the script

I was just too lazy to go back and edit it. Heh.

I'm getting old

quote:Originally posted by Supreme Galactic Overlord

Of course, it helps to make sure you have fighters on your ship when you warp in to kill him after photoning him


Hey sgo...What in the world happend there? I warped in and scaned right before you photoned me and saw you and coke in the next sector (coke was not online just so others know). I immediatly called for my corpies and waited for you to warp in. now, did you use a photon to warp in? or did you just warp in? I previously laid those 50k figs in that sector for that very reason. [:D] and then your pod was trying to attack my figs and coke was in the sector with me. Did you tow him in? It all happened quick and my corpies came in right after I got you in a pod so I didnt read any of the messages I was getting. (just hitting A n-n-n looking for your pod with what 1200 figs I had left!)... *I ended up collecting 45k sector figs to be bale to finish off your pod in a hurry...

Anyways, good game...

I don't know why you didn't see the damage, you should have. What version was the game?

quote:Originally posted by Harley Nuss (teamEIS)

I don't know why you didn't see the damage, you should have. What version was the game?


Yikes.. hes running .55 still.
I thought he was upgrading to the newest, but he hasnt yet.

Probably something to do with time sync then, hard to say. Really, unless/until a bug shows up in 3.12, it probably isn't worth us worrying about. No reason to spend a lot of time trying to find a cause of something if it may have already been fixed.

I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something to kill those messages that I was unaware of.

As for what happened, Heat Sink, I had just hooked onto coke, to tow him back one sector so if you photoned in there he wouldn't get hit, plus I wanted him protecting the planets one sector back. I had just given him his fighters back and hadn't picked up any fighters to fill my ship back up, I was running a photon move script but I only had one photon. When you entered that sector I was in the process of picking up fighters, the photon move script attempted to activate, but couldn't because I was at the fighter prompt. I in the meantime wondered what was going on so I cancelled the fighter pickup from the sector. The minute I released myself from that menu, the photon move script "finished" moving me into the sector, with Coke in tow, me carrying no fighters at all!

To top this off my Swath Auto was on, so when I entered the sector, it took over trying to kill your fighters 10 fighters at a time. I guess the script must have picked up fighters for me or I managed to get the fighters before the script warped me in there, but I thought I went in there empty, evidently not, you just wiped out my fighters that quick it felt like I had no fighters when I entered. Bottom line is, my swath feature wasn't turned off and it over rides everything, and it doesn't know how to kill 50k fighters, it only knows how to kill a few deployed fighters. So, while I was scrambling to turn off the auto kill feature on swath, you podded me.

Shrug.

To make a long story short it was a complete and utter debacle, but at least I'm learning the scripts right? Could take time but I might just compete. Heh!

what kind of CN settings do you use?