I seriously doubt restrictions would ever get used, it's one of those settings like rob delay that people hate when they see it in action. As for non-corp members, no they'd be a legit person who's entire role is just to sit in-game.



Great, so as long as they solo player joins a corp before sending on info then it's perfectly reasonable. Yay!

You're still looking for technical solutions to technical problems. You really want to get into a scripting arms race?

Except automating an entire corp's cashing skill is perfectly acceptable, and the more you push it the more people will just adapt. All you'll do is get people to accept a wider range of play, and broaden the range between people that accept such play and the whiners that cry cheat and pretend to leave.



Yes, there is a way to stop duping. But none of this requires duping. I've got lots of ppl that can shove twxproxy onto a machine and run a monitor account.

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Players may adapt over time, they just need more time to get up to speed. And if they choose not to you can’t force them, they leave.



And many see botting as legalized duping. Sure, you may have individuals logged in, but they are not at the keys, someone else is directing their actions. I’ve been told by some players who’ve been botted as their “lessons” and didn’t learn a thing. They just felt used. I’ve been botted myself so I understand the experience, but I did not feel used, I knew what was going on and I was fully a part of it.

So Bot = Dupe to many players.

Or they pretend to leave... lol.



And most of those players don't actually play, either. It's fairly irrelevant, as whether or not they want to bot... inevitably they will start using them. Even you are now using a bot.

Seems playing the game is not about actually playing tradewars but the game is who can write the best scripts and exploit bugs.

The in-game CLV didn't change. Only the "High Scores list" has a delay".

I used the bot in HHT 2010 Replay - it was my way to honor SG to at least try the style game he loved in one of his edits.

That's not how I play, and I really didn't like it at all. It was very cold and impersonal.

In a nutshell, that's what it's become. However, now that JP is working on the game again, we now have some edits that favor "humans at the keys" games.

I don't monitor in-game, I use a watcher that periodically connects and checks the alignments when I am checking cashing.

               / Promethius / Enigma / Wolfen /

"A man who has no skills can be taught, a man who has no honor has nothing."

See, this is where it's so obvious that these debates are wasted on you because you can't seem to separate honest play from dishonest play. If two Corporations are actually playing the game and they form an alliance and share information, that's fine. But if the sole purpose of a player or Corporation is to enhance your Corporation, then that's cheating. Are you saying you're confused as to whether or not you're using game accounts for the sole purpose of enhancing your primary game account (or put a shorter way, DUPING)? If you do this, you're a cheater, Sing. The fact that you can rationalize it in your own mind doesn't change a thing. It's still cheating.

Na, you can use proxies to get IPs.

IMO, that's just another form of Duping.

Sigh... I wouldn't be discussing it like this if I couldn't, now would I? Common sense, yo, use it. *facepalm*



And exactly how is a sysop, or anyone outside the players in question, going to know whether the ppl on the time monitoring corp are "playing" or not? And how do you define "playing" anyway? Finite definitions like that might not matter to you as the designer, but sysops can't get away with that if they expect people to play on their server.

this seems axiomatic. and hardly a phenomenon limited to tradewars.

id also like to know- if one violates the spirit of a law without breaking the letter, did they break the law? do they go to jail?

Not quite. I'm not bad at script writing - I posted the answer to the challenge that started this thread - but I dont write bots and afk scripts. I don't have a problem with those who do. I find it distasteful and don't do it myself. Additionally, it doesn't punch my ticket, uninteresting.

I'd say it comes down to those who can and do write such scripts, and bug exploiters, if there are any, and for whom I would have some contempt.