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Unread post Me's are a quadruple threat
This is on RP's server. If the number of nodes are limited, this could be a problem down the road.


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Node 2 Game T : jack
Node 3 Game T : Micro
Node 4 Game M : me
Node 5 Game T : ?
Node 6 Game M : me
Node 7 Game J : Polaris
Node 8 Game M : me
Node 9 Game J : bloop
Node 10 Game M : me
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I guess since I'm not seeing this on my beta server, it would be good to have a look at the server myself. We could use http://join.me so I can explore the situation.

It seems like this is happening more to some players than to others, so it might be related to certain activities.

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So it could just be that the node is dropping carrier but TWGS is not detecting it and closing the node. This actually happens quite a bit, but a) TW times out, which we considered and there's a 5 minute timeout that doesn't seem to be shutting these down, or b) the player logs in again and forces the previous connection to close. It's definitely unusual. I'd really like to see it in action myself.

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But if you are sitting at the following menu, there is NO timout. You can sit there forever:

==-- Trade Wars 2002 --==

T - Play Trade Wars 2002
I - Introduction & Help
S - View Game Settings
H - High scores
M - View Access Modes
A - View Announcement
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Enter your choice:


Players sit here so they can monitor the CLV, and the session won't time out even if they get disconnected.

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You know, that definitely is one way that a player could be online with an active session on multiple nodes. Logging in a second time wouldn't kick you off, because you're not logged in. And there wouldn't be a timeout. So sure, that is a possible answer to this mystery. But it's not something that we've seen a lot before, which makes me think something else may be going on here.

There are a lot of implications when it comes to changing how this menu behaves. For one thing, you're not logged in at this menu. It's meant to be available to people who haven't yet joined a game. I could put a timeout on it just so whenever a player ends up dropping carrier while at this menu, they eventually do drop off. But other than that, it won't matter. Anyone who wants to remain at this menu can do so by using a keepalive. I could make a time limit on how long you can remain here without actually starting the game, but then people could just log off and right back on. What's the difference there, really.

I'd like to verify that the situation we're looking at is really just a player getting dropped while at this menu. One test would be for a player to try to interact with the player with multiple nodes while RP has the spy window up to show any output on the player's screen. Maybe send a fedcom message, a personal message to the player, etc. If you can go to where the player is, see what happens when you enter his sector. Do you see a message? Just some ways to try to find out if the connection is truly dead. What should happen is, if anything does try to send output to the player, it will cause the connection to fail out and close. If that doesn't happen, it means the player is either at the startup menu, or the game is locked up.

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I was seeing the same kind of thing while 'squatting' on
the Status page. I was having my Troll.ts script wait for
a disco and I never got a disco message. It just hangs
there and at some point you get hung/frozen/disconnected.

I thought it could be a kinda dangerous thing, as it wouldn't
take much to put in a delay trigger, and then disconnect and
log back on. The result would be all nodes filled in an hour or
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Ok, I can address this. I just wanted to make sure that's the issue.

Crosby, you're right, it could be abused that way. But there are plenty of ways to fill nodes if that's what you want to do. The op basically has to ban any IP that's doing that. Thankfully we haven't seen a lot of that.

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