It was never formally a truce game. I was just declaring my own truce on the newbies I was beating up. I wanted to extricate myself so I can play less and work on helpers and scripts more, and let them go on colonizing in CargoTrans or whatever stupid thing they were doing.

But now there's a player called Xanos with way more fighters than me, 'cause he's red and I'm blue. I don't know if he's building his own planets or if he's going to hunt mine or what. Could be interesting.

Yeah, that Xanos guy is pretty good! He's pulled my bacon out of the fire more than once.

Iam not an IT pro, nor a programmer, nor a geek, besides TW I hardly use the computer. When scripting/TWX came out I put in a little research, did my homework, ask questions and opened others public scripts and taught myself!!! iam far from the best at it, just know enough to get me by. If you were to spend less time posting half the garbage you post and put a little of that time to learning, it can be done.

Hey if I can make a grid script off of using some help from a public script then anyone can do it! However, I still get killed. Gotta start somewhere

Most TWX scripts that interrogate the TWX database will not work in HVS. It is not a matter of editing the scripts to get them to work, it would be necessary to modify the TWX source code itself.

I ran TWX in the background on a HVS game a year ago. The database could not even pick up the warp data from the ZTM I ran, nor could it store port data. The problem is that as written, TWX is very syntax sensitive and there are subtle differences between HVS and TWGS.

I first noticed this when TWGS came out - I use Trade Wars Assistant (TWASSIST) for data management and suddenly my ZTM didn't work anymore. Took me hours to figure out the reason, which was actually very simple. In TWGS, if a course plot is more than one line, a leading space appears on the second and any subsequent lines. In HVS, no space. There are similar differences in the port report displays. I know next to nothing about TWX and discussed the problem here with Sing, who told me nothing could be done to make TWX work in HVS.

There are a few perks in your analogy. For one, TWX source code is available, and could be easilly modified to work with HVS. Second, we don't have to have the TWX database to write scripts, the only hinderance is the offensive scripts may be a couple of milliseconds slower, but still much faster than swath scripts. Thirdly, there are still a few of us that can write rexx scripts for Zoc that would effectively get the job done.
Your HVS game is pretty safe however since very few players are interested in playing it at all.

First, I do not play HVS much, three times in the last dozen years.

Second, It would be very difficult to modify TWX source code to deal with HVS. I doubt if I could, and I am a code writer of some competence.

Third, ZOC REXX is not a good language - it is legacy from OS/2, IBM's belated (and failed) attempt to take on Bill Gates' takeover of the personal computer market.

Fourth ? I would be very interested to read your HVS TWX version that is so simple to write, seems it should take maybe a few minutes?

I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you Kav. Think what you want to, but I'm also a programmer, and I'm telling you that in a couple of days I could rewrite the entire database structure of TWX. I'm sure EP could do the same thing if he actually wished to spend the time to do so. However, considering the popularity of HVS, I doubt that will happen.

The main problem with modifying TWX is that it's written in some version of Pascal, itself more or less a dead language, and the build files are proprietary. I tried to port them to a FOSS Pascal IDE called... Leopard? Cheetah? Some type of cat. Anyway, I couldn't figure it out. I decided it was too many new things to learn at once, skills I would never use again, so I just went back to using SWATH.

Delphi I believe.

               / Promethius / Enigma / Wolfen /

"A man who has no skills can be taught, a man who has no honor has nothing."