That's why I liked the method I suggested it lets people get back in and play with out the reward of making fast cash.


Yea I wrote one to but I only used it on my server, I was to lazy to T-Edit cash in a game I was testing

Where would you start? The sector you ship is in or would the game move your ship to sector 1?

A big part of playing last team standing games is to be able to kill all of your opponents in one day AND keep them from re-entering the game. That means putting the game in lock-down, nav hazing all sectors around Terra and blocking the MSL.

I can see all sorts of potential abuses to allowing someone to enter the game in a ship they already own...

Possible, but make the ship random and move the ship to sector 1 so the player could be sitting in a pod @ terra and be red. These could be settings under the Death Delay Off, make it a new set of options.

Not a true statement it doesnt matter how many turns game it is, if you need to moth, moth. It actually depends more on the planet and ship edits

In turn games with death delay turned off mothing can be an advantage, but not as much as in an unlimited turn game. The player can't be towed out of sector 1 and he returns with 0 turns. However, you can moth every hour even if it is a very low turn game.

I haven't played a turn limit death delay off game in TWGS, but in MBBS HVS after your 3rd pod which would have been your #SD# your turns revert back to what they were. So, in a turn game pod 3 times with full turns, then you're basically playing an unlimited game with unlimited moths.

We should test this in TWGS.

I was pointing out that helix made a in- correct statement when he said "mothing was a unlimited turn edit tactic", which it isnt!!!!! Mothing is just as successfully in a low turn edit!!!!!! Appeartly cause I posted he was incorrect he felt it was considered smack and deleted my last replay, I justed didnt want new players get false information!

Mothing works better in limited turn games because you usually cannot refill the planets quickly enough. In an unlim game, you can refill planets using ore wh0re or port buydowns. This is why the most important resource in an unlim is a large area of space that cannot be taken by your enemies (ie: bubbles), where-as the most important resource in a turns game is ore and fig production.

In an unlim, if you have your enemy SD'd, or AFK, you just run your script to login and mow to moth (dropping cash/figs) - no skill or resources required to burn the base's ore, it really isn't playing in my opinion - even though "the game/sysOp has allowed it".

               / Promethius / Enigma / Wolfen /

"A man who has no skills can be taught, a man who has no honor has nothing."

That would be true of a game w/o a death delay. However it would also work in a turns game too, as you don't lose your turns in a game w/o death delay if you're #SD#.

Agreed!!!

Should probably read:


I read it:



Helix didn't mean to imply that you can only moth without
death delay. CBY mothing is what we were talking about, eh?

Nobody CBY moths, why would you CBY if you were just planning to moth? Wouldn't you let the cannons kill you?

What you mean is using the no death delay to run straight for the cannons, ad naseum. This, however, works in both unlims and turn limits. If you die in a turn limit game without a death limit, when you return you will still have your turns.

Ex: I have a set of scripts that can xport thru ship to xport to a moth ship, land on a planet, pwarp adj, then pgrid moth in. At 5 turns per cycle, I can hit 100 times in 500 turns. Ride the hourly regen, hit 10 times an hour... lol. Works all the same.

It works better, arguably, in turn limit games since the enemy's ore production will be much lower. Once you get a fig in the enemy's base, they're in trouble.

Ok, I'm looking at a simple option, not too complicated to implement that it's likely to break something, but that would limit the CBY abuses and mothing. I think there must be two separate settings for this.

Setting 1) Initial asset dropoff - Specify the number of deaths before initial assets drop to zero. So if you have starting credits at 1000 cr and dropoff set to 1 death, you'd start the game with 1000 cr, but after 1 death, you'd start with 0 cr. 2 deaths would start you after 1 death with 500 cr, but 0 cr after the second death.

Setting 2) Total deaths per day - How many times can you restart after dying each day before being locked out until the next day? So 0 restarts is normal death delay. 1 restart allows you to die and restart immediately once, but if you die again, you wait until the next day to restart.

Any issues here?

I like it.....