This guy keeps cloaking in fedspace and no one can tocuh him...no besides flooding every sector leading to SD with 100,000 figs...is there anything else I can do to get this guy...hes worth alot!!!

Is the cloak fail rate set to anything more that 0% ?

If so you can be on at extern to see if he get decloaked.

Also is he being towed from fedspace at extern (He should be if he has more fighters than allowed.

Good Hunting [;)]

cloak rate is set to 3% and he never gets towed.....

if the peeps per sector is set low enough, you and a bunch of people can dogpile in the sector he is cloaked out in(there will be an anomoly)and force him out of fedspace. although then he would be jettisoned out into space somewhere, you can run an amtrack script if you know the locations of both the class O ports out in space.

An amtrack script surrounds the major space lanes with fighters so that any person being towed gets dragged out into the major space lanes and dumped. But if this guy is surrounding fed with 100k figs, you'll need to either destroy those, or surround his fighters... which would be way more work, but would still effectively work.

where can i get an amtrak script for swath?

quote:Originally posted by bumblebeetuna

where can i get an amtrak script for swath?

You don't actually need a script to do it. In order to set up amtrak, you need to surround the major space lanes (msls) with your own fighters. The msls are 1 <-> SD, SD <-> Rylos, SD <-> Alpha Centauri, Alpha Centauri <-> Rylos. You'll want to make sure you check the paths both ways to account for any one-way warps. Then, whatever sectors those are, you'll want to place figs in all adjacent sectors. You'll also have to surround sectors 2-10 with your figs. Hope this is helpful.

sorry for the newbie ignorance but how do i find rylos and alpha centauri?

quote:Originally posted by bumblebeetuna

sorry for the newbie ignorance but how do i find rylos and alpha centauri?

Well, there are several ways. The easiest I find is to do a ztm then look for sectors with 6 warps out and at least one 1-way warp in. If you use twx (http://www.twxproxy.com) supg has a script that will do this for you at http://www.scripterstavern.com The script is titled supgclass0.

Alternately, you can place figs outside of SD and look for which ones are cleared at extern. You then stick figs around all of those and see which ones are destroyed the next night. Eventually you will get the path to the class 0 ports.

Finally, you can just probe the universe and explore and hope to find them by blind luck. It's not very effecient but it'll work given enough time and resources spent.

OK!!! so...this guy is evil and has alignment and exp up the yinga yang,. but still stays cloaked at SD after extern...

any other ideas on how to get this guy?

ANd lets the person per sector is 5....do i just need to round up 4 more buddies to go in and jsut sit there for 5 seconds...or do we have to be cloaked over night?

You just need to be in the sector with them, logged off, at extern. Extern will randomly pick people to tow out until the limit is no longer exceeded. Make sure you don't get towed for armaments limits either, since it seems to check for them first. Once extern runs, then you log back in and hope that the guy you want ends up being the one who gets towed.

shoot...that wont work...oh well, i guess we just have to catch this bastard when he is online. Cloaking in fedspace pisses me off beyong all belief.

so, why isnt he towed at extern? wouldnt u think he would be because he is evil?

Ok a couple things, MSL is actually ALL paths between ALL class 0 and 9 ports. So you figure 1 to and from the other 3, then SD to and from the other 3, etc. Just a little clarification there.

From what I have experienced is the first people to cloak in fed are the safe ones. Example, fed limit 3, first 3 people log out in a fed sector, they are safe, anyone else that logs out in that sector will be towed. Problem with trying to catch him that way is you have 11 fed sectors to max with traders that are all off line when he tries to go off line and cloak, a near impossibility. My suggestion is to watch while his is on line and try to catch him. You can watch at the back door to SD, or Terra, or the class 0 ports, or any one ways into fed where he might go. My favorite, because most reds wont go to SD or Terra when anyone else is on line, set up a photon watch in the one way going to a class 0 port, make sure you put a fighter and a mine in the class 0 sector to slow him down with prompts. Another option is to right a script, or macro, dock at a class 0 with a fighter in the sector and stay at the buy prompt. When your fighter is hit the macro or script runs, hits Q to leave the port and attack with all you have. The chances of you being blown up sitting on a class 0 port are pretty slim compared to other ports. Good luck and happy hunting.[;)]

quote:Originally posted by bumblebeetuna

shoot...that wont work...oh well, i guess we just have to catch this bastard when he is online. Cloaking in fedspace pisses me off beyong all belief.

so, why isnt he towed at extern? wouldnt u think he would be because he is evil?


One would think. But alignment has nothing to do with it. The only reason you get towed from Fedspace is because you have too many figs at extern, or you have too many people in the sector at extern.

Let me guess, is the reason it won't work is because the only time he's ever on-line is around extern? Most of the reds in my corp pop on just before extern, burn their turns and then cloak in fed after extern. That way our reds never risk getting towed/dogpiled/amtraked. If he's doing this, then you probably need to wait for him to make a mistake, or force him to make one.

If he's not on-line at extern, but you can't get enough people to park on top of him for extern, (or you or your corpies aren't awake then) you have to wait for his cloak to fail, or as you said, catch him on-line. If he isn't getting towed himself, then he has to be leaving his figs somewhere. (Or he has a huge pile of cash on him...lol...) I would go after his figs to encourage him to keep them on his person, THEN go after him when he gets towed for armament violations.

A crafty Red is very difficult to catch, especially if he has a Blue helping him. Concentrate on limiting his maneuver room by controlling space with your figs. Find his bases and crush them. Keep a t-warp ship with a few photons handy that you can x-port too and if you have a shielded planet, be prepared to drop it under him. Try to disrupt his timing by changing your log on times to match his. Try to find his cashing area but only go visitin it when he's cashing. Bring a photon. You want to do everything you can to disrupt his ability to cash. If you find one of his cashing area's, but he's not there at the time, make sure you toast it. Drop figs, mines, limpets and blow the ports. You want to deny his ability to cash.

If you REALLY want to take the long-term approach to it, you can try my slash and burn tactic. You need to have a good planet farm first and alot of nerve. I've won games by blowing up every cashing port I found. (after sucking them dry first. very important step!) Eventually my blue planet farming strategy beat out their red cashing strategy. In a 5k sector game, there are usually only 1900 ports or so, of those, there are only 1050 that buy EQ. Start with the SBB's and the SSB's first. Reds like to have fuel handy. Remember you gain 50xp and -50 align for every port you kill. It takes roughly 1.1 million figs, and about 10k turns (with a decent fig net and a mobile planet) to do it, but it's worth it for the look on their faces. The last time I tried this was in like '98 or so. After 5 days of blowing 100 ports a day, they cried uncle. It all depends on how badly you want to win.
Happy Hunting!

quote:Originally posted by Shorty

Ok a couple things, MSL is actually ALL paths between ALL class 0 and 9 ports. So you figure 1 to and from the other 3, then SD to and from the other 3, etc. Just a little clarification there.

Shorty,
The MSL's look like this:

.............alpha
............../..|
............./...|
Terra---SD..|
.............\...|
..............\..|
.............rylos

The path between Terra and Rylos and Terra and Alpha are not MSL's. Remember that you have to check each path both ways to account for one-ways.

quote:
From what I have experienced is the first people to cloak in fed are the safe ones. Example, fed limit 3, first 3 people log out in a fed sector, they are safe, anyone else that logs out in that sector will be towed.

That hasn't been my experience. The player number (what order they first logged in) and the ship number they are in also don't seem to matter. I will, however, tell you it's not TOTALLY random. [;)]

I heard it has to do with the amount of figs you have on you, so the guy with closest to zero has the least chance, although its not that more likely the guy closest to 100 will be towed.