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Kaus Gameop Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2002 3:00 am Posts: 1050 Location: USA	Resolving the TWX C: *issue Vid Kid wrote: First of all .. NEVER put twx proxy in the desktop , that only leads to major problems later in debugging script problems. I have been cleaning up troubles from a handful of players .. seems someone is teaching how to install twx proxy (the blind leading the blind). To properly install software , let its installer choose the path or it must go into the Root directory structure : C:/ directory style , not on the desktop , the desktop is for short cuts. That leads to bigger problems. I suggest C:/DownLoads for anything you download and C:/UnZipped for anything you unzip. So TWX would probably end up in C:/UnZipped/TWX_Proxy I'd like people to expand on this, having read the source I didn't see where choosing to put your TWX Proxy in C:\Users\Kaus\Desktop\TWX vs. C:\ is of any significant issue. Vid and others elude to scripting issues that could arise later but I haven't seen any during my limited scripting past. Can someone (EP maybe?) definitively produce the type of issues we could see by placing TWX on the desktop with shortcuts. Historically I have helped people with install's and I certainly don't want to contribute towards the "Blind leading the Blind" if installing outside the C:\ is detrimental. _________________ Dark Dominion TWGS Telnet://twgs.darkworlds.org:23 ICQ#31380757, -=English 101 pwns me=- "This one claims to have been playing since 1993 and didn't know upgrading a port would raise his alignment." Last edited by Kaus on Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:05 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:25 am

T0yman Veteran Op Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:06 pm Posts: 2059 Location: Oklahoma	Re: Debunking the C: *issue It's just messy with all the files. I don't think he is referring to running it from within a folder on the desktop since that will cause "NO" issues. I just prefer running everything from a certain folder "C:\TWX" "C:\SWATH\" cause it is easier to keep track of everything. You imagine all the mombot files all over your desktop.... my OCD would drive me nuts. Of course I could be wrong on what Vid is trying to say.. _________________ T0yman (Permanently Retired since 2012) Proverbs 17:28 <-- Don't know it, most should it would stop a lot of the discussions on here.
Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:47 am

Kaus Gameop Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2002 3:00 am Posts: 1050 Location: USA	Re: Debunking the C: *issue T0yman wrote: It's just messy with all the files. I don't think he is referring to running it from within a folder on the desktop since that will cause "NO" issues. I just prefer running everything from a certain folder "C:\TWX" "C:\SWATH\" cause it is easier to keep track of everything. You imagine all the mombot files all over your desktop.... my OCD would drive me nuts. Of course I could be wrong on what Vid is trying to say.. Well I mention it because throughout the years I'e heard it brought up over and over that there is really only one way to do a TWX install. I'm interested in getting EP's and everyone's experience to see if I'm just being dense. I cant imagine people putting MOMBOT files all over the desktop, by default mombot comes in established folders to drag and drop into the TWX directory. _________________ Dark Dominion TWGS Telnet://twgs.darkworlds.org:23 ICQ#31380757, -=English 101 pwns me=- "This one claims to have been playing since 1993 and didn't know upgrading a port would raise his alignment."
Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:58 am

Vid Kid Commander Joined: Sun Feb 25, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 1838 Location: Guam USA	Re: Debunking the C: *issue From Kaus Quote: Vid and others elude to scripting issues that could arise later but I haven't seen any during my limited scripting past. Can someone (EP maybe?) definitively produce the type of issues we could see by placing TWX on the desktop with shortcuts. As you say "with shortcuts" I have no problem with it that way because that is how the desktop was meant to be used , with shortcuts. Not the .exe _________________ TWGS V2 Vids World on Guam Port 2002 Telnet://vkworld.ddns.net:2002 Discord @ DiverDave#8374 Vid's World Discord Founding Member -=[Team Kraaken]=- Ka Pla Winners of Gridwars 2010 MBN Fall Tournament 2011 winners Team Kraaken Undisputed Champions of 2019 HHT Just for showing up! The Oldist , Longist Running , Orginal Registered Owner of a TWGS server : Vids World On Guam
Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:07 am

Kaus Gameop Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2002 3:00 am Posts: 1050 Location: USA	Re: Debunking the C: *issue Vid Kid wrote: From Kaus Quote: Vid and others elude to scripting issues that could arise later but I haven't seen any during my limited scripting past. Can someone (EP maybe?) definitively produce the type of issues we could see by placing TWX on the desktop with shortcuts. As you say "with shortcuts" I have no problem with it that way because that is how the desktop was meant to be used , with shortcuts. Not the .exe I was addressing your statement Vid Kid wrote: First of all .. NEVER put twx proxy in the desktop , that only leads to major problems later in debugging script problems. I have been cleaning up troubles from a handful of players .. seems someone is teaching how to install twx proxy (the blind leading the blind). To properly install software , let its installer choose the path or it must go into the Root directory structure : I've heard similar statements from other scripters. I was hoping you or the unnamed scripters could provide some concrete issues you have faced during your tenure that have been the result of a desktop install. _________________ Dark Dominion TWGS Telnet://twgs.darkworlds.org:23 ICQ#31380757, -=English 101 pwns me=- "This one claims to have been playing since 1993 and didn't know upgrading a port would raise his alignment."
Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:11 am

Vid Kid Commander Joined: Sun Feb 25, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 1838 Location: Guam USA	Re: Resolving the TWX C: *issue Most recently , an install of mombot to the twx on the desktop install. This person installed to the desktop as well as 3 other locations .. Which I did not find out till hours of debugging , and eventually I used joinme.com to get on his system to figure out the mess and correct it. Which meant to build a directory off of the c: drive and eliminate all other twx's on his system ..and now he runs scripts and mombot without any other problems. So I teach others to just make a shortcut to the desktop for your scripts folder and a shortcut to launch the twx.exe _________________ TWGS V2 Vids World on Guam Port 2002 Telnet://vkworld.ddns.net:2002 Discord @ DiverDave#8374 Vid's World Discord Founding Member -=[Team Kraaken]=- Ka Pla Winners of Gridwars 2010 MBN Fall Tournament 2011 winners Team Kraaken Undisputed Champions of 2019 HHT Just for showing up! The Oldist , Longist Running , Orginal Registered Owner of a TWGS server : Vids World On Guam
Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:22 am

Kaus Gameop Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2002 3:00 am Posts: 1050 Location: USA	Re: Resolving the TWX C: *issue Vid Kid wrote: Most recently , an install of mombot to the twx on the desktop install. This person installed to the desktop as well as 3 other locations .. Which I did not find out till hours of debugging , and eventually I used joinme.com to get on his system to figure out the mess and correct it. Which meant to build a directory off of the c: drive and eliminate all other twx's on his system ..and now he runs scripts and mombot without any other problems. So I teach others to just make a shortcut to the desktop for your scripts folder and a shortcut to launch the twx.exe So in the end its more of a user issue than an actual TWX issue, which cascades in the long run in regards to the user running scripts. I can appreciate that approach and may adopt it for myself. Thank you for the insight. _________________ Dark Dominion TWGS Telnet://twgs.darkworlds.org:23 ICQ#31380757, -=English 101 pwns me=- "This one claims to have been playing since 1993 and didn't know upgrading a port would raise his alignment."
Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:36 am

Mongoose Commander Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 1096 Location: Tucson, AZ	Re: Resolving the TWX C: *issue I always thought the issue was that script includes choke on directory names with spaces in them. Yes/no? _________________ Suddenly you're Busted!
Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:36 pm

Helix Ambassador Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:57 am Posts: 3554 Location: Long Beach, CA	Re: Resolving the TWX C: *issue Mongoose wrote: I always thought the issue was that script includes choke on directory names with spaces in them. Yes/no? No their paths are based on the current directory location. ie ./includes = scripts/includes There should be no spaces in scripts or includes _________________ Helix Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. Lest we forget I had to ask myself WWSGD?
Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:56 pm

ElderProphet Commander Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:00 am Posts: 1134 Location: Augusta, GA	Re: Resolving the TWX C: *issue I don't believe I've ever commented one way or another. Howerver, I can tell you that the Windows Desktop is abstracted (a variable) and can be redirected, so it doesn't have a concrete location. By itself, that could cause inconsistencies, since the path to the desktop can change (common with Windows upgrades or Domains). I wouldn't expect many people to encounter that problem, but it would be simpler and more resilient to use a concrete path like "c:\twxproxy2.5\". +EP+ _________________ Claim to Fame: only guy to ever crack the TW haggle algorithm, and fig/shield/hold price formula, twice.
Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:45 pm

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