I also want to point out that whatever steps you went to are your business and not anyone elses.  What I was pointing out, is that no matter how good the investigation is, sometimes it's just not enough.  There are a lot of very smart hackers that keep finding new ways to stay one step ahead of law enforcement or any other authority that tries to catch them.  Believe me, I've been through all the steps and proceedures, and sadly to say, the investigations failed around 70% of the time.  About the only way to catch a hacker is if they are repeat offenders and someone catches them in the act.

bueller? bueller? bueller?

Sorry I have to agree with SG on this one. I don't care of Vadis aka Moomoo didn't do the actual hacking. I have seen numerous icq conversations where Moomoo has threatened people in this community.

He has a sloppy attitude and even if he us not banned from here he is not welcomed here by most anyway.

Vulcan- sorry that you have had to put more financial's
into this forum and for the investigation. I know you work hard here to make the community safe and fun for all of us. Its a shame that all this took place.

I'd like to add something to Vulcan's info, since I was heavily involved in this investigation with Vulcan (and Zentock).



Quite true there Big D. However in Vadis' case, we went as far as talking to witnesses who were with him or saw him at the exact log time of the hack attempt was made. Also, I was able to verify that Vadis wasn't anywhere near anyone's computer, PDA or any other device capable of doing the hack for at least 6 hours previour to at least 1 hour past the time the hack occured.

We really went into it full steam to find out if Vadis' alibi was valid. It would have been very hard to be more convincing. and quite hard to fool us in this respect.

Quick note on Vulcan etc...

I would just like to say that I've discovered Vulcan and Zentock as individuals in all of this (spending some time on the phone and ICQ with them through this process, and e-mails...). These are excellent admins you have there. The proof of this is that they take care of the forum, the community and that out of their own pocket and time. Bravo!

Vulcan is one of the most stable guys I've met (though I haven't actually met him). Meets challenges with composure and lots of humour. And bonus, he never says anything or does anything without putting some thought into it and it seems like he's always putting the community in front of his personal likes and tastes.

Zentock is a very passionate guy and helps lots with SySops, and he has LOTS of good ideas for TWT as well.

Other mods/admins I'd like to applaud and that I admire:

Singularity: Man, you got it! Every post I've read from him is clearly meant to keep things cool, positive and good in this forum, not letting your personal feelings on issues affect your duties as an admin. On your own site, he has his opinions voiced, and that is fine, but here, he's doing what needs to be done for the community. Another great example.

Runaway Proton: I know him less than the others, but from what I heard and read so far, he's being very tactful in his posts, voicing his opinions, but always siding with the Admins (Vulcan especially who is putting up the site for all of us) and always "showing the other side of the coin" keeping balance. I appreciate that.

There are others that are very good and many members that I could point out.

Suffice to say that Vulcan and some other individuals I've mentioned here has made me want to work with this community even more than before.

There is strength here, though I feel there is also weakness in some places. But if we can help strengthen the community in any way, I'm all for it and Sylien will certainly help.

Vadis' unusual (and sometimes abrasive) attitude and expressions aside, he's been trying to help from day 1 of contact with this site. I just hope that most of you will keep an open mind about him and learn to read between the lines when he says things, while he learns to speak "North American"... lol

As always, long post but not many. My e-mail is all over Sylien sites (any one will reach me) and I'm available for an ICQ with any one of you any day to chat if you wish.

Good day and I wish you all the best!

This is a sweet reply.
I especially enjoyed the section on Singularity and And Vadis.
Very nice .
 

Vulcan does this mean the Authorities(some provincial goverment organization) Were infact Contacted ??

Yes, I must say this is one of the sweetest replies I have seen lately. We should all strive to be like them as well.

Yeah, I think its very unusual and abrasive of Vadis to be obnoxious and make threats over icq to people in this community. What more could you ask for.

We really need to put this to bed.  If you can't accept the fact that Vadis is innocent in this matter I guess that's your choice, but we shouldn't continue to drag this out.  He was wrongly accused, and now he's been cleared.  We appologize for wrongly accusing him.  Thats all we can really do.  We can't take back all that was said. 
How would you like this handled if you were in Vadis shoes, and had been accused.  Wouldn't you in the least like an apology?
We're not saying you have to like Vadis.  We're simply stepping to the plate, and saying we were wrong, and that's the right thing to do.
 

Is it just me or were we NOT posting on his guilt or innocence? No one has posted anything saying we dont believe anything RP....

What do you mean 'we' white man?

Cerne

RP please re-read the post's.   Noone is saying we don't believe that he has been proven innocent.

Yes, if hey was wrongly accused he does deserve an apology. However, on the same token he should apologize for his behavior as well.

I have said enough on this subject tho. I don't want to beat a dead horse and thats what I am doing if I pursue to comment on this particular subject.

Personally I figure this would be a witch hunt to start with.  There were a lot of things that went on BESIDES the forum hack around that time and a lot of people still have hard feelings concerning those events.  If Vadis has proof that he wasn't near a computer at the time of the hack, so be it.  Most of the people in this forum didn't accuse him of that anyway, since we were waiting on word of who the hacker actually was.  Besides, what happened to me didn't happen on one occasion, it happened on several occasions at different times.

well as the first witch hunted in this i have a keen intrest. As to the rest of your post I dont understand ..You had things happen to you?  Do tell....
 

Heh.  I figure you are being sarcastic since you know most of what happened at the time.  But my IP ban which no one admitted to was the biggest thing.  Also I could only access certain areas when I could get into the forum and couldn't change my avatar.  Also, like many other I had numerous posts deleted.  Who knows, maybe it was just glitches in the software since at the time, the messages format was screwing up badly.  I at first thought it was Zentock, then when I was told that the hacker was found, I thought otherwise.  Now I find out that the hacker wasn't found.  Oh hell, I'm at the point now that I really don't give a Darn.