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 Editing and deleting posts in open discussion 
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Unread post Editing and deleting posts in open discussion
Certain Trade Wars players are notorious for posting inflammatory comments, then go in and change what they said after people responded, typically making it look like the responders had overreacted. They also would delete some posts to make it look like the responders are talking to themselves.

In light of this, I propose a period of 10 minutes in which a post can be edited or deleted. After 10 minutes, a post cannot be edited or deleted period.

A 10 minute edit period would be sufficient to correct errors while eliminating the problem of people "covering their tracks."

This would only apply to the open discussion forum. All other forums could remain as is so members can edit posts to update information such as the scripts forum, game rebangs, tournament, etc.

Thoughts?


Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:48 am
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Unread post Re: Editing and deleting posts in open discussion
I wasn't sure if we had that kind of control, but I checked and it is a setting, both to limit editing time and delete time. So if there's a consensus to use this setting, let us know.

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Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:29 pm
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Unread post Re: Editing and deleting posts in open discussion
I knew it was a setting, depending on the software as it is used on other boards. It doesn't have to be 10 minutes. Any period of time that you feel is right, John.

But I've seen it over the years with posts edited and deleted several times that it got out of control a little bit.


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Unread post Re: Editing and deleting posts in open discussion
I understand as I have seen this on occassion, but I do like to fix my typo's and I never seem to notice them until I hit enter. I don't seem to notice it as much on this forum as I have on another I visit randomly. So to me I can live with either being changed or left alone but I prefer to be able to edit if I have a typo :lol:

Or maybe once someone posts after you it is locked.

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Unread post Re: Editing and deleting posts in open discussion
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Certain Trade Wars players are notorious for posting inflammatory comments, then go in and change what they said after people responded, typically making it look like the responders had overreacted.


Why not just quote when responding? Is this really
an ongoing problem?

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Unread post Re: Editing and deleting posts in open discussion
I don't think we have the level of control to lock edits after you have been responded to, though that would be nice.

There is definitely a valid need for editing a post after it's up. If you care about what you're trying to say, it's a good idea to read it over after you post and make sure you made sense. And often you don't catch a confusing point until you've been away from it and come back and read it fresh. But it's also true that threads have continuity, and you shouldn't significantly change the content of a post once it's become part of a thread of posts. So there is a balancing point, for sure.

I would like more feedback on it.

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Unread post Re: Editing and deleting posts in open discussion
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Certain Trade Wars players are notorious for posting inflammatory comments, then go in and change what they said after people responded, typically making it look like the responders had overreacted.


Why not just quote when responding? Is this really
an ongoing problem?

Cros not so much on this forum that I have noticed, then again I try to ignore some posters :)

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Unread post Re: Editing and deleting posts in open discussion
I agree with Timberwolf, I have seen this and it is annoying especially as an admin trying to monitor the mods / members. I would try to follow a covo then all of a sudden the conversation has been broken. I get a bit of a chuckle because it does make people look silly and the convo look invalid at times but then when I check the mod logs it does show that posts were moved / deleted / edited. I think a small time limit to correct mistakes, then the post is locked unless an admin changes something.

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Unread post Re: Editing and deleting posts in open discussion
The best way to avoid that is to quote the original post.
Then the OP can alter it as much as he wants, but the people who replied to it will have it as it was originally written.
I edit my posts almost immediately after posting- thanks to idiot spelling or grammar issues.

I'd recommend people quote the post they respond to.
If someone reports a post, it is easier to see who was poking whom when it comes to fixing the problem.

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Unread post Re: Editing and deleting posts in open discussion
Quoting is a good way to make your point valid, yes. But I think what has been seen is a few posts in the points start to build up and individuals will pull their original post. Time limits on posts are a good idea. Got my vote, if we cany edit oue posts in 10 minutres then our bad...<g>

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Unread post Re: Editing and deleting posts in open discussion
mob wrote:
Quoting is a good way to make your point valid, yes. But I think what has been seen is a few posts in the points start to build up and individuals will pull their original post. Time limits on posts are a good idea. Got my vote, if we cany edit oue posts in 10 minutres then our bad...<g>



Good one, Mob. LOL.


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I vote yes. Locking editing is a good idea

Edit: This is over a year old. LOL I didnt notice until I had posted

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Unread post Re: Editing and deleting posts in open discussion
This subject should be looked into again, given recent events of frequent post deleting and editing.


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Unread post Re: Editing and deleting posts in open discussion
Timberwolf wrote:
This subject should be looked into again, given recent events of frequent post deleting and editing.

No posts that I know of were deleted in the OD area with exception to players removing their own. The area being discussed is the Tournament area which we have different set of rules for each section of the forum. I don't always have the time to cleanup and babysit 24/7 so deleting them is a better option as it removes what I feel is just going to start a flame war. But if the expectation is that I monitor 24/7 then people are sadly mistaken.

Here is a suggestion though, if there is something that is offensive send me a PM as I get email notifications directly to my phone and you will get a faster response unless it is midnight to 6am. Otherwise I will get to it when I get time since I have never seen anything posted that is a matter of life or limb. Embarrassing yea maybe a little but we are all adults for the most part and should have a little thicker skin than getting caught up in the he said she said scenario.

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1. Each thread must begin with the Tournament Name, date expected to open, host server information, and rules if this information is available.
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4. Members not in the game are allowed to comment on the game, however if this results in arguments that get personal the member NOT playing will be banned from the thread. This can be a temporary or permanent ban.
5. Posts viewed by the admin/moderators of this site as being out of line with the intent of this thread, can be moved or deleted at the moderators discretion.
6. Continued violations of the rules of this thread can result in the temporary or in extreme cases a permanent ban from this thread.

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