Ok....would everyone please give me their theories on what is the best way to share cash on a mega corp!?

One idea we had in a game was to have a defensless planet in the back of the bubble to use for the bank......that being a LVL 4 with no figs or colos and cannons off of course. But we had one lil crybaby who seemed to think that would be the downfall of the whole game for us because one planet in back of base was undefended......

lemme know peeps.

It only makes sense to minimize risk by not keeping large amounts of cash on an undefended planet. If you are so sure that nobody could possibly invade your bubble and reach that planet, the game must be pretty much over at that point, right? The safest way I've used involves being online at the same time. Then planet defenses can be turned off, mega-corpies can land to sleep in cit, and defenses turned back on once partners are safely tucked away. Or, keep the cash on well-defended planet, and transfer it to L1 planet just when you need to.
Why not have one person from 1st corp log on at whatever time 2nd corp plays, just long enuf to xfer cash? If the two corps can't play at the same time, I don't see a better alternative to your idea.

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Ok....would everyone please give me their theories on what is the best way to share cash on a mega corp!?


Deploy a large amount of toll fighters in that back sector. When you need to transfer cash, just have someone from the other team enter the sector, pay the toll, exit game, reenter game, pay toll, exit game, reenter game, pay toll, etc. The fighters will have the credits on them when the controlling corp logs in and picks up the fighters.

Of course, if someone makes it into that back sector with all the toll fighters and kills them, they'll get the credits they have on them, but at least that's better than giving it to an invader for free right off the undefended planet.

Just an idea... I'm sure there are better ones.

Of course, the best way would be to transfer assets between the two corps while a member of both teams is online.

Lisa M. Wilson
aka Rave

Well it doesnt even have to be a lvl 1...it can be any level with colos and figs taken off and cannons turned off. That way it could be moved in the unlikely event of an emergency and the cannons at the very least could be turned on if needed.

The toll fig idea wouldnt really work because we want to "share" the cash not put it in control of just one of the corps.

ALso....noone said there couldnt be other planets in the sector that could be activated in the case of an invasion for more defenses.

okay share the cash? why do that then the back off the bubble is completey defenseless say a corpie from the other team wants cash are you going to sit here and tell me your going to move all the figs out of sector, turn off all canons move mines? but oh wait you said canons could be turned on if need be, thats rigth I forgot your not only going to leave a dead planet back there but your not going to have any figs or mines or sector canons there to defend it. Brilliant, best way to do it is to split cash between both corps and put it on a shielded planet the toll figs would be the best bet just make sure when you log in or find out that the other team hit the fig to redeploy the toll figs. problem solved. if the other team needs cash asap just hit the toll figs again and they have it in a blink of an eye. And you can call me a cry baby all you want you backstabbing idiot, if you would of pulled your head out of forever's butt long enough to hear my concerns then this would have all been avoided.

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okay share the cash? why do that then the back off the bubble is completey defenseless say a corpie from the other team wants cash are you going to sit here and tell me your going to move all the figs out of sector, turn off all canons move mines? but oh wait you said canons could be turned on if need be, thats rigth I forgot your not only going to leave a dead planet back there but your not going to have any figs or mines or sector canons there to defend it. Brilliant, best way to do it is to split cash between both corps and put it on a shielded planet the toll figs would be the best bet just make sure when you log in or find out that the other team hit the fig to redeploy the toll figs. problem solved. if the other team needs cash asap just hit the toll figs again and they have it in a blink of an eye. And you can call me a cry baby all you want you backstabbing idiot, if you would of pulled your head out of forever's butt long enough to hear my concerns then this would have all been avoided.




I don't know what sort of issues you have here, but this really isn't the place to bring them up. As far as an undefended sector in the back of the bubble, I normally figure if a corp can get to the back of my bubble, I've lost anyway. Perhaps a good way to move about the cash would be to keep the people who would actively need it (agressive blues) hold on to most of it, and the other corps each keep a couple of million for every day expenses.

you can leave 1 planet in the back of your bubble at lvl 2-3-4 wha tever with no q-cannon or figs,
just dont leave the cash on it at all times, when someone needs cash put what they need there,
you can still have how many other planets there loaded just without the q-cannon set for sector blasts

Prime Evil illusion
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Get Them Before They Get You!

okay the reason i have a problem with it is i being one of the reds want a fully defendable sector with 4 active planets figs and mines. not a sector that people can warp in and use that bare planet as a means of escape. if they get to the end of the bubble then it is the blue teams fault not mine and i wish to survive and have a better chance of doing so if sector is heavily defended then having 1 fig no mines and no sector canons.

quote:Ok....would everyone please give me their theories on what is the best way to share cash on a mega corp!?

kk, based on the individual's question and weighing the helpful posts he has made to others, my advise is "CBY" looser. TTFN

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Actually Sev when I know the answer to a question I am usually good about giving an answer to a person. I did however get rude to that guy who recently asked about what happened when he was trying to photon through all those figs to get to an alien planet. My bad. Guess I musta been havin a bad day or somethin.

Actually Sev when I know the answer to a question I am usually good about giving an answer to a person. I did however get rude to that guy who recently asked about what happened when he was trying to photon through all those figs to get to an alien planet. My bad. Guess I musta been havin a bad day or somethin.

sooo...... byte me Sev


And Corran...btw....we never did actually use that idea we just wound up splitting the cash. So you threw a temper tantrum for nothing. Crybaby.

Anyone ever have a disagreement about corp decisions and then get pissed off and go to another game where your playing with the same people and claim everything for yourself and kick them off the corp? Corran the crybaby did just that....just a warning for you freaks thinkin about playing with him.

Sorry I know this isn't the smack talk area but it kinda fit here.

Edited by - phx on May 19 2002 4:54:49 PM

Well I really understand what PHX is asking and find that there can be many different ways fo doing this, some may pose a risk, such as a planet, but if that planet is barried and in a bubble defended, then it would be fine to be stripped down to use, not only to transfer cash, transfer I said, not to be the bank, between the 2 corps, and also to transfer figs if need be. So a level 1 planet poses no risk what so ever in this case. Is it an escape route? possibly, but if someone gets that deep your bubble the chances are your pretty close to dead anyway, and might have the only option of moving your (RED) sectors out. If you are just gonna sit there after someone has gotten that deep obviously taking out the blue corp and think you will defend staying there, then I would have to say... get more brains. Move your base out, and OH NO! you left a level 1 sh*t planet for them to take. I see NO security issues with having a stripped level 1 sittin DEEP in the bubble for this use... oh yes you can also blow the planet up since its stripped, anytime if someone is penetrating your bubble, but I guess that might be too hard for some of you....

I am a strong beleiver that no matter what a corp needs its own defenses.... even the ones given 1 planet in the last sector of a bubble. No one should expect a red corp to have nothing and need nothing, and just because your part of a mega corp and YOU happen to be the one who creates the planets, DOES NOT MAKE THEM ALL YOURS, thats the reason for the corps and is why they were made CORP planets, and red is out making money for YOU, and you dot want to give red anything? HEH!

Severian.... umm as*hole? any way ya look at it, post like that, has no place to be thrown in someones face.

Enough said.

I will respect you in the morning but I won't wake up till noon.

Just another couple ideas I've used in past games that worked well for cash transfers. One is get reds set up with planets they can use as entirely red bubble and turn it over to them leaving a blue ship in sector with transfer range...keep one cheap L1 planet for nothing but fund transfers...reverse in blue bubble. Else find a couple of isolated Dead Ends in middle of nowhere and build L1 planets for both to use as needed. If red is at SD then use the bank to transfer creds in either direction. Those methods are most effective in games that are close to stock settings in longer games than many of the "Toy" settings allow these days.

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okay the reason i have a problem with it is i being one of the reds want a fully defendable sector with 4 active planets figs and mines. not a sector that people can warp in and use that bare planet as a means of escape. if they get to the end of the bubble then it is the blue teams fault not mine and i wish to survive and have a better chance of doing so if sector is heavily defended then having 1 fig no mines and no sector canons.


Okay I may be mistaken but... why do so many people think that red players do not need a defendable area to build up themselves?

Any decent red/blue mixed align corporation knows that the blue players are spending time building the base up, while the reds cash and kill... It's the natural order of things. Now, if someone gets to the back of your bubble, sure, you're probably already dead right? I don't see the problem with the entire back sector being red and/or the secondary corporation. They should be able to set their cannons and lay mines and figs, it's their place to build, and drop cash & grab figs when needed. (of course I am referring to megacorp situations here). In all, I think anyone who thinks reds don't need a base or even their own planets is absolutely wrong. The reds do not only cash for blues, but they also are the initiators of invasions, they also need a safe place to hide (and safely twarp to).

Also, the others were right. No empty planet was used, we found ways around it. The game went quite well, especially after the reds were given the back 3 sectors of a nice new bubble, absolutely stocked with max planets per sector making enough figs & resources for them to be quite comfortable. Hmm... if I am not mistaken the reds also had more planets and colonists than anyone else in the game at the end... due to the fact that they were so well equipped to take out every single enemy base in the game.

Hale (aka Deadly Nightshade)

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Any decent red/blue mixed align corporation knows that the blue players are spending time building the base up, while the reds cash and kill... It's the natural order of things.


In general, you are MUCH better ofr having the blues be offensive. They typically have better ships, plus can twarp to fedspace. If a red is out killing/hunting for bases/invading, they are not using their turns making money.



Edited by - Kemper_3 on May 29 2002 12:01:50 PM