I can't agree more, there are only a small handful that think otherwise.


Oh she is using scripts now, and lots of them. There is no way to compete against others that are using them if you plan to survive long. You can currently add delays to the game to slow scripts down to the point of playing by hand so adding this solves nothing. Abort or don't 500ms delay to land/move/lift/attack ... = 500ms every time.

I do like your analogy RP. This is a 25 year old BBS game, and there are people who want to play it like it was 15 - 20 years ago. We now have most everything we need to emulate that, the last toggle remaining is the abort display.

The best you could argue is that I'm trying to segregate the players. Or bring back a segment that's been lost.

Pong anyone?

Pong is to slow and boring, I want a re-write

Other than my first two years playing my local dial up totally manually - (Pre-Twar for Win) I've always used a helper of some sort to play. After the dos based helpers became obsolite, and before Swath and TWX I wrote simple macros for Zoc. I've almost always used some sort of "tool" to help play this game.

I promised someone that I would learn the new style of play once we had the settings in place to make this game more newbie friendly, and we do, and I put a server up. I've had at least 25 unique visitors to my server, on occation I do watch them play. As I had anticipated, most of the players coming to my server are playing manually, or with Swath. I see very little TWX activity.

Now that I've started learning more about TWX scripts, I may like to try writing one myself. And now that I've seen first hand what's possible, I don't have a setting on my server that will limit this, other than single player mode, and I'm not going there. Players prefer the mulit-player platform.

My question to you who don't like this idea, what's the harm?

Apparently you have not been playing in B.O.T.E.

I hear you're not either!

OK, so you think the game can ONLY be played and enjoyed if you use TWX?

If this is a simple feature for JP to implement, and I'm the only one using it on my server, how is this going to effect your enjoyment of the game?

And if you're correct that this will "tube" all the public TWX scripts - trust me, we can also ask JP to include this setting in the * menu so you'd know this game has settings you don't like. I will put in the game name in flashing ansi - TWX does not work here!

Default tedit setting should naturally be as it is right now.

Chalk it up to adrenaline!

The reason for not allowing a player to abort messages as he/she feels is appropriate really hasn't been covered in detail. The "how" it will produce a desireable effect or why that effect is desrieable (other than the supposed "mess with script kiddies" mentality).

I doubt if I am the only one that use methods to speed up certain actions in a game over the average player. Aborting messages is just one area to do that, but you will need a little more research into the game. I know of no public scripts out that use one method in particular.

               / Promethius / Enigma / Wolfen /

"A man who has no skills can be taught, a man who has no honor has nothing."

Touché !!

And I'm not certain that this will mess up TWX. The HVS MBBS version cannot abort displays, everything in Swath works with exception to turbo mode. There are no delays in HVS MBBS that I know of, everything does display and if I run say a Zoc buydown script, it's an extremely fast screen blur.

So, is this proposed toggle a game changer or not? We won't know until we try it. But, what I suspect is that players will figure out how to adapt the TWX scripts. And will TWX scripts be just as deadly or not if they cannot abort display? I think then we'll get into the latency settigs of the game that we have now, and those will help create a level playing field.

No, you're making a branch of the current player
population. There is already a bit of a fragmented
player base, what with the turn vs. unlimited crowd.
How much more dilute do you want the playing
community?


Level playing field = communism.

How am I diluting? I'm trying to address the concerns of those who have left to entice them back in.



Sportmanship, fair play, skills vs. technology, the day a Swath player with skils and game knowledge can compete with a player of the same skills game knowledge using TWX.

(And yes, I know you can run TWX and Zoc scripts from within Swath.)

I ran a way cool script New Year's Eve! Kewbreeze and The Butcher didn't think it was possible to photon past armids the way I did. LOL

I was just the player who had it loaded and ran it. The credit for this script goes to Xanos. He and T0yman are great teachers, they let me learn at my own pace.

If I weren't so suborn (Irish), I would have left long ago like so many others. I still beleive it's possible to offer a game that will bring more players back to the game. Just one more toggle!

I don't have a beef with you Crucher, but I have to honestly say I believe that most have left not because of scripts, but because of the bickering that goes on in this community.

Some call it Smack, and a little is fine, but it's got far too hardcore for most players, and they simply turn their back on it.

I for one go to forums to find help, but it gets so diluted by the bashing back and forth that it’s hard to find meaningful content any longer, and scripts (Current or New) have become hard to come by as well in the public databases.

If we could turn this forum into a source of help, without all the bashing, perhaps those who venture inside would stay and learn the game, scripts or no scripts, fast or slow pace, delays or none, I don’t think it would matter.

That’s my 2 cents

RP