No. You really should know what your talking about before you try to argue with someone. I spoke to River Rat Daily, I made at least a half dozen edits specifically for him, I played on his server regularly, corped with him regularly, and I had his email, ICQ, and home phone number. I know exactly why he pullled the plug on his server. It was after he wanted JP to add some sort of front end for TWGS that would allow the sysops to screen player access to the TWGS servers. JP evidently told him he wouldn't do anything like that, and River Rat announced his retirement and the the closing of Alien Base not long after that.
If you would like, I'll contact him and have him tell you that himself.

Basically he was tired of spending all that $$$$$$ for a server and not getting any donations in return.

Seriously Big D, is your only purpose in life on this forum to continue your grudge against JP? Have nothing else to do? We get it. Perhaps it would be faster if you just copy/pasted your venom. Would save ya some time.

I take it personal because you are telling visitors of this site that the reason people are leaving TW is because of how they're treated on this site, MY site. And it isn't remotely true. More people have left TW because of the belligerent treatment they get from you and other elite bullies than because they perceive that their viewpoints are not welcomed by the EIS forum staff. There has been plenty of antagonism toward the expression of unpopular viewpoints on this site, but rarely if ever by the EIS forum staff. And I may not have been around this forum at that time (primarily because I, like so many others, did not want to deal with some of the individuals who trolled this site in those days), but I was well aware of the situation. And I'm simply pointing out, based on some of your posts in which you cast yourself and others like you as a victim, that you have a very "unique" view of reality.

If Res or anyone else wants to have a viewpoint that they feel is being suppressed on this site, either by the current staff or an earlier one, there are plenty of sites where they can freely express themselves. I think it's ludicrous to suggest that anyone has left the TW scene because they felt oppressed by EIS or its forum. I honestly don't think this forum carries that much weight in the community. And this is just one more in a series of posts in which you blame EIS, in one way or another, for driving people away from this game. It's a 25 year old text-based game! Why do we need to find blame? It's amazing people are still playing it at all.

On the River Rat thing, I don't recall the actual conversation in which I'm attributed as having told River Rat, essentially, "you're out of luck", but I have actually had that request many times over the years, and here is my response. I never intended for TWGS to be a BBS. I would prefer that anyone who wants a controlled front end run a BBS and connect to TWGS from it like any other game. There are some awesome tools for providing that kind of user management, and there isn't any reason for TWGS to provide it. That's not saying "you're out of luck", that's saying "there are options out there for you already". If he closed down because he didn't want to run a free BBS front-end, that's his choice. But that's a lot different than saying he closed down his TWGS because the developer ignored his request. Running a server is expensive and often thankless, and it never surprises me when gameops close up shop. What surprises me is how many keep at it, or come back to it.

Many SNIPS:




I knew Res Judicata quite well. A fine man. That said, if he ever had had ANY problem with JP, it would have been blazoned here, and he would probably have arranged a Blimp over New York City advertising the issue, he did have a short fuse.

Res and I had some issues but he was cool in my book. I never really had a beef with him. I just disagreed on some discussions with him.

He was a great player so it made my day once in one of the Big Games when I #SD#'ed him.

My corp and I was invading his corp. I was running support above the enemy planet while one of my corpmates was invading the planet below. He ejected Res from the planet and I podded and killed him. While Res was shown as being online, he was obviously AFK as I was slow to launch my figs at him. He had plenty of time to take evasive action. But he did not respond at all, which was a break for me.

Ah, that was fun teaming with 15-20 players on the same team.

Actually no. It wasn't your site. It was Vulcans site. Vulcan hosted it and paid for all expenses. Was it you that appointed Zentock as admin? Were you even remotely associated with that forum? Regardless, that forum DID carry the name "Official EIS Forum"

As far as being remotely true, not only is it true, but it is documented fact. All you have to do is search some of the old posts. That is IF Vulcan still kept an archive. Maybe the wayback machine has a few.

See, this illustrates the problem with Big D. He claims to know more than me about a situation that really isn't any of his business. He presents his opinion as if it's fact, and even argues when told by the person directly involved that his "facts" are wrong. You can't trust anything a person like that is saying.

My advice to anyone reading this forum, take Big D's "facts" with a grain of salt. I don't know that he intentionally misrepresents the truth. I honestly think he believes what he says. But I also know, when it comes to my business, he often makes claims that are completely false. Chances are good he does the same when it comes to Res Judicata and other members of the community for which he claims to speak.

OK. So if I'm wrong and my facts are flawed, then you just called Vulcan a liar.
Vulcan himself told me that the only thing you provided or payed for in association with that forum was the redirect URL, and that he, (Vulcan), was the host, lead admin, and operator of that forum which DID boast that it was the "Official EIS Forum" with your approval. Is this not fact?
So what I say doesn't matter, it's what is written in history that provides the facts.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Dont you think its time everyone settled the personal differences that have built themselves into something VERY ugly and offensive?

I will now address Big D, Sir, take your toys and go play in another sandbox. You are in my opinion a flame war artist, 80% of what you say is designed to piss someone off. You have your "OWN FORUM" I dont want to see a new post here everyday with you trying to piss another person off. What is your goal Sir? On your own forum new people are told that it is the "Real Trade Wars support forum" If so, why do you come here?

I am really sick of this daily crap.

No matter what you brought to the game for all these years Big D, what you are doing now has taken all the respect due to you and removed it with petty crap and children's playground antics.

I am stepping back...

I agree with DSB.

Big D, whatever you may or may not know, the problem is, you draw false conclusions and state them as facts. You said "It wasn't your site". Regardless of anything you've heard about it, even from Vulcan, it was always my site. I have never called anyone else's forum the "official EIS forum".

By your logic, I never had a forum until recently when I, for the first time, started paying for hosting out of pocket. Prior to, what, 2008?, I didn't pay for this site. And if I didn't want to, I wouldn't have to, because there are always good and generous people who are willing to help out TradeWars. Before Vulcan hosted it, it was on the AZI servers where Gypsy/Rick Mead used to work, and Rick Mead was the admin of the site. Did that make it his site? No. And neither did Vulcan's involvement mean that this site was his. If it was his, then when he split to start his own forum, he'd have just continued this forum rather than start a new one. I'm sure you know that's not what he did.

You also have no clue how much I participated in the management of the forum back then. So please, stop speaking for me. And if Vulcan was around, I'm sure he'd ask the same.