The Irony that you refer to was debated to death 6 or 7 years ago. There are ways around it.

Rev,

The debate about this has been going on and off for almost as long as I can remember. There are ways around it. If one ignores (for now) menu squatting, a simple way to prevent corp 24/7 ingame presence is divide 24 by max per corp and set TL lower.

for corps of relatively decent size, i.e. 4 or more, that leaves time limits under 6 hours. i would probably not play that game.

maybe its just me, but i hate getting invaded offline. it feels too much like old bbs tradewars that was pretty much single player. you work so hard running your turns (telix with no scripts) and then you log in the next day and its all wiped out. at least without time limits, if i get invaded offline, i can blame myself for not being there. when the time limit kills me, i just want to smash something.

its not like we have to agree on this. you want to sleep at night. i want scripts to defend my crap while i sleep at night. sounds like almost the same thing to me. i wonder which is more manly? with time limits, you get to invade people when they are offline (girly). with time limits you can blame things out of your control for losing (girly). without time limits, you can get your beauty sleep knowing that your enemies will die at your gate or your planets will run away when they find you (girly). without time limits, you have to invade other people while they are online or actively guarded by scripts (MANLY).

Getting invaded while you are offline having sex with their wife because they spend too much time playing twars (MANLY)

heh

I'll bite, grin.

Telix for Windows (TFW), which I use, is virtually identical to the original Telix (for DOS) in terms of scripting capability and language. Nice "bells and whistles" added, you can make windows type mouse clickable stuff etc.. thats about the only difference apart from DDE.

As to Manly v Girly, I must be Girly, but never knew it before. Manly men let afk scripts take care of them?

And since then people have found ways to get around those ways. =)

I always preferred Telemate over telix. See, I even capitalized it.

Real men don't need much sleep. I'm like a sleep camel, I can store it and then live of my reserves for a month.

Waste of time to talk about it until the votes are counted. lol

Cerne

Not if we influence the voting process... =)

Telix has 2 languages, SALT and SIMPLE. Both are acronyms. SALT is more or less C++. SIMPLE is very similar to Telemate, and English. As is ZOC to REXX/Deutsch.

LOL REXX is an IBM invention - it is basically the batch-file language for OS/2 - it has nothing to do with germans.

Here are the votes as they tally AT THE MOMENT. I will make up a list of people who have submitted their votes later, my printout cut out people's names and the pages got outta order.

1)   Sectors:    
     A) 5k      (5)
     B) 7.5k (1)
     C) 8k
     D) 10k (6)

2)   Turns
     A) 600
     B) 750 (2)
     C) 1000 (6)
     D) 1200 (4)

3) Corp   Size
     A) 3 (2)
     B) 4 (5)
     C) 5 (5)
     D) No Preference (1)

4) Planets Per Sector:
    A) 3 (5)
    B) 4 (2)
    C) 5 (3)
    D) No Preference (1)

5) Turn Bank:
     A) 2 days (8.)
     B) 3 Days
     C) 4 Days
     D) None (4)

6) MBBS (10) Non-MBBS   No Preference (1)
     
7) Photons:
     A) 1 second (2)
     B) 2 seconds (9)
     C) 3 seconds
     D) No Photons, they scare me. (1)

8.) Death Limit
     A) Yes (5)   How Many: 5, 5, 4, 5, 4-8, 10
     B) No (4)
     C) No Preference (1)
      
9) Suggested Edits or Edit-Type Preference:
Alienbase: Call to Battle
Desert Sands
Asteroid FTW
KI
Moo
Ck-Edits: Killer Instict or epoch
Pirates
Random Suggestions: Good Red ships, Fast Cit Times, Invisible “online” list,

10) Corporation Affiliation: There are 3 people with no corp affiliations who have voted. There are 4 people that say they are BYOC. One problem: When I asked for affiliation, I meant what CORP are you with and whether or not you’re going to bring other people. In which case, those other people need to also come to EIS and vote and also indicate what corp they are from so that I can start making lists of people who are IN corps, what corps they are in, and who is on what time, and also make a list of people who need to be randomly assigned a corp.

Also, not everyone indicated whether or not they were a solo player or a corp player. That is very important to know because if you don’t indicate that you’re not on a corp, I will assume that you ARE on one and you won’t get on the list for people who need to be corped up.

Other Suggestions, Comments, or Requests:

Time Limit – 1 votes
No time limit – 3 votes

The People who have voted so far are:

Killian
the reverend
Cernnunos
Kane
Bait
Space Gost
Singularity
MisBehavin
Parrothead
KewlBreeze
Father Cajone
Kavanaugh

Thats 12, few of which have indicated which corp they are in or if they are a Solo player in need of a Corp.

Please speak up about what corp you are in (or if you are not in one) and what members will be joining you and gett them in on the voting process. Remember we will need a list of names of people who are for sure playing before this game starts, there is no just showing up at bang with your peeps.

As for the general discussions that seem to be going on around the voting, even though this thread is made specifically FOR voting:

Time limits suck / don't suck: Beating a dead horse
Scripts suck / don't suck: Beating a dead horse

Voting on this game is in the present topic. We had ALL of these conversations about time limits/scripts the last game sign-up and I personally am tired of skimming past all the crap to find game information. If you want to debate scripts/time limits YET AGAIN, make a new topic called "Beating a Dead Horse: Time Limits and Script Discussion" and KEEP IT THERE!

Like it or not, this game is going to be highly competetive like last time with SDs and Photons being handed out on the regular. If last game is any indication of what is yet to come, you will probably die quickly if you don't have a script playing in this game, and that should be the end of the discussion as far as this topic is concerned.

1) A - 5k sectors
2) D - 1200 turns
3) C - 5
4) A - 3
5) D - None
6) MBBS
7) B - 2 seconds
8 ) No Death Limit
9) KI
10) In a corp
11) No Time Limit

I voted!
My vote was the same as sing's.
so just count his twice..

1)   Sectors:     
     A) 5k      (6)
     B) 7.5k (1)
     C) 8k
     D) 10k (7)

2)   Turns
     A) 600
     B) 750 (2)
     C) 1000 (7)
     D) 1200 (5)

3) Corp   Size
     A) 3 (2)
     B) 4 (6)
     C) 5 (6)
     D) No Preference (1)

4) Planets Per Sector:
    A) 3 (6)
    B) 4 (2)
    C) 5 (3)
    D) No Preference (2)

5) Turn Bank:
     A) 2 days (8.)
     B) 3 Days
     C) 4 Days
     D) None (6)

6) MBBS (12) Non-MBBS   No Preference (1)
      
7) Photons:
     A) 1 second (2)
     B) 2 seconds (11)
     C) 3 seconds
     D) No Photons, they scare me. (1)

8.) Death Limit
     A) Yes (6)   How Many: 5, 5, 4, 5, 4-8, 10, 5
     B) No (5)
     C) No Preference (1)
       
9) Suggested Edits or Edit-Type Preference:
Alienbase: Call to Battle
Desert Sands
Asteroid
KI (2)
Moo
Ck-Edits: Killer Instict or epoch
Pirates
Random Suggestions: Good Red ships, Fast Cit Times, Slow Building Mega Planets, Invisible “online” list,

10) Corporation Affiliation: See Below


Other Suggestions, Comments, or Requests:

Time Limit – 1 votes
No time limit – 5 votes

We are not Voting for BYOC or Not BYOC, this is a mixed game where some people will BYOC and some will sign up solo, and we will make some corps at random of the solo players. I am one of those solo players myself.

People who are BYOCing need to provide the name of their Corp, a list of corp members who are participating, and have corp members fill out a “ballot”.

If we can’t determine who is solo and who is BYOCing, we will not be able to form the corps that we need as stated before, this game is going to be a mix of both.


Killian - solo
the reverend
Cernnunos - solo
Kane
Bait
Space Gost - solo
Singularity
MisBehavin
Parrothead
KewlBreeze
Father Cajone
Kavanaugh - solo
Slim Shady
Fork

If you are wrongly listed as a solo, please alert me and tell me the name of the corp you belong to. If there isn’t a “solo” or the name of your BYOC corp next to your name in this list, you haven’t told me what corp you belong to. Please do so in order that we can tell who is going on what team.