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Oso
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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:00 am Posts: 1324 Location: USA
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I personally believe that it is up to the Sysops to provide the games that people want to play. I will be hosting unlims and turn games when I finally get moved, and I will also be doing deathmatch games on the weekends for those who are interested. I find that places like UTW succeed because they have a ton of different offerings for players. If I were to log in right now, I'd find a game that I'd want to play. I wouldn't want to alienate any of the playerbase out there. Sure, I'd love to see a stock game with low turns, but that won't bring in the unlimited bunch. Offer a bit of everything, be seen as being fair and respectful to your userbase, and it will only grow.
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| Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:44 pm |
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-=orion=-
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Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 10:28 pm Posts: 168
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Mongoose wrote: The minority of active players who say they prefer classic, turn-limited games never show up for them when they're banged. Why won't they respond to attempts to organize them so we can get a real game going? Still basically just me in Cruncher's Black Friday game... me, one fakey, and one dude who doesn't haggle (you can tell from his XP) colonizing in a CargoTran. I want some competition... like that one game I played against Jaguar and El Macho... Peeps better show up for Cruncher's Cabin Fever tourney. No excuses! Why no one plays ? I felt sorry for you playing by yourself and came and played....I played my 800 turns and logged out... I missed a day and logged in today and was wiped out...lol.... i could care less about the game...but really killing people after 2 days really doesnt help your RANT... have fun... I found your stuff and did nothing... but I don't want to "RANT"... Thought it was a friendly game at crunchers site... lol...
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| Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:01 pm |
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Mongoose
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 1096 Location: Tucson, AZ
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-=orion=- wrote: Why no one plays ? I felt sorry for you playing by yourself and came and played....I played my 800 turns and logged out... I missed a day and logged in today and was wiped out...lol.... i could care less about the game...but really killing people after 2 days really doesnt help your RANT... have fun... I found your stuff and did nothing... but I don't want to "RANT"... Thought it was a friendly game at crunchers site... lol... Some people apparently have this idea that turn-based games mean you put on the kid gloves. But you should feel complimented. I only wasted you because I considered you a threat. I know where the other guy's base is, too, but I've left him alone because he's pretty obviously a newbie. The ease with which I destroyed you highlights yet another reason why I think any game over 500 turns is ridiculous. I don't think players should be forced to join a game in its first hours or days in order to stand a chance. But with 1000 turns, even as a solo blue I was able to get most of the dead ends probed within a couple days. Anyone who tries to establish a base now will likely show up on my blocked port reports. The game isn't even a week old and it's pretty much over unless an aggressive corp or an exceptionally cunning solo player shows up. Not my idea of fun...
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| Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:03 pm |
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Mongoose
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 1096 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Muss wrote: the best thing to do would be to jump the minority ship and hop aboard the majority ship. So... Skyrim? 
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| Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:30 pm |
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Cruncher
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Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 4016 Location: USA
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-=orion=- wrote: Why no one plays ? I felt sorry for you playing by yourself and came and played....I played my 800 turns and logged out... I missed a day and logged in today and was wiped out...lol.... i could care less about the game...but really killing people after 2 days really doesnt help your RANT... have fun... I found your stuff and did nothing... but I don't want to "RANT"... Thought it was a friendly game at crunchers site... lol... And here's the misconception. I don't run friendly builder games, I run games people can experience this game as it was played in the 90's. No truces, no sissy builders games, come, play attack, invade build defend, all that there is to do, you can do in all of my games. The only things you cannot do in my games is pdrop (5 sec delay), well technically it's still possible but highly unlikely. You cannot Mega Rob, that is turned off, but we still have MBBS battle odds. You cannot dupe. You cannot use bugs. Play the game as it was intended, before the Mega Rob bug was known. (or at the very least before it was widely known and turned into a "feature".) Game P - I never expected players to come into a game that I've announced that I do play. Albeit once or twice a week, just to keep assets up. Here my least experienced players come - 5k turns and tinker around, so I keep an eye out for them. So, my inexperienced players can attack me or each other, or Ferrengi... etc. But when experienced players come in, I keep an eye on them.
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| Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:29 pm |
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-=orion=-
Chief Warrant Officer
Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 10:28 pm Posts: 168
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Cruncher wrote: -=orion=- wrote: Why no one plays ? I felt sorry for you playing by yourself and came and played....I played my 800 turns and logged out... I missed a day and logged in today and was wiped out...lol.... i could care less about the game...but really killing people after 2 days really doesnt help your RANT... have fun... I found your stuff and did nothing... but I don't want to "RANT"... Thought it was a friendly game at crunchers site... lol... And here's the misconception. I don't run friendly builder games, I run games people can experience this game as it was played in the 90's. No truces, no sissy builders games, come, play attack, invade build defend, all that there is to do, you can do in all of my games. The only things you cannot do in my games is pdrop (5 sec delay), well technically it's still possible but highly unlikely. You cannot Mega Rob, that is turned off, but we still have MBBS battle odds. You cannot dupe. You cannot use bugs. Play the game as it was intended, before the Mega Rob bug was known. (or at the very least before it was widely known and turned into a "feature".) Game P - I never expected players to come into a game that I've announced that I do play. Albeit once or twice a week, just to keep assets up. Here my least experienced players come - 5k turns and tinker around, so I keep an eye out for them. So, my inexperienced players can attack me or each other, or Ferrengi... etc. But when experienced players come in, I keep an eye on them. Im not criticizing the site or the game ...more the "RANT".... he wants people to play but gives them 2 days... he's been there since bang and he says he doesnt think people need to start first day....but apparently to play against Mongoose you do.... Dont RANT about wanting people to play and then kill them after 1 day of trading... who's going to stay .... Sure it was my fault I died... but ASSumed a guy that wants someone to play a game would allow someone a few days... I ASSumed wrong... And now he can go play with himself...
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| Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:35 pm |
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Mongoose
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 1096 Location: Tucson, AZ
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-=orion=- wrote: he's been there since bang and he says he doesnt think people need to start first day....but apparently to play against Mongoose you do.... Actually, the game banged on Friday and I think I joined on Sunday or Monday. I utilize every advantage the game gives me, because I expect no less of anyone else. I think the game should have fewer turns, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to play all the turns I'm given. Likewise, I think people should be able to wander in on day five and not be hopelessly behind, or at least that there is a place for games like that... but they should be able to do that because of the game settings, not because I let them. If anything, I'll be even more ruthless to demonstrate why the game settings should be different.
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| Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:54 pm |
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Oso
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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:00 am Posts: 1324 Location: USA
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I can see both sides to this. I don't like truce games for this very reason. It lulls people into thinking they're safe on day one in any other games they go into.
I would have waited to kill Orion until after I had at least said hi to him. It is pretty sad that this game has the ability to allow us to communicate with each other and most of what I see in Fedchat is unprintable. We should still be able to respect the people we play against.
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| Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:50 pm |
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Mongoose
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 3:00 am Posts: 1096 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Oso wrote: I would have waited to kill Orion until after I had at least said hi to him. He said "hi" to me by swiping the fighters off a couple of my planets. Which is perfectly fine, IMO; just part of the game.
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